Peaceful dispersement

Fermi guard shoots his own foot

A security guard at DTE Energy’s Fermi 2 nuclear power plant shot himself in the foot yesterday while putting away his weapon.

In an incident report filed with the Nuclear Regulatory Commission Thursday evening the utility reports:...

Fermi 2 is a 1,098 megawatt General Electric boiling water reactor that has the same design as those at Fukushima and has been in operation since 1988.

In May an operator at the plant was suspended for duty after testing positive for cocaine during a random drug test.
http://michiganmessenger.com/53564/fermi-guard-shoots-his-own-foot

Leon Panetta's reward for bin Laden's capture is rare 1870 wine

The U.S. government offered a $25 million bounty for Osama bin Laden, but there was a lesser-known enticement for then-CIA chief Leon Panetta: a sip or two of Chateau Lafite Rothschild 1870, one of the world's most celebrated wines.

Last year, Panetta attended an annual New Year's Eve gathering hosted by Monterey, Calif., restaurateur Ted Balestreri, who was chided by some of his 28 guests about the $10,000 bottle of wine sitting in his wine cellar. Asked when he would finally uncork it, he said it would be "when Leon catches bin Laden."

Panetta "jumped up and said, 'You're on!'" Balestreri said in an interview this week.

Co-owner of the Sardine Factory restaurant, Balestreri said he never intended it as a serious challenge to Panetta, a 40-year friend who grew up in the Monterey area and represented it in Congress before going on to other top government jobs.....
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2011/10/27/128506/panettas-reward-for-capture...

Wanna See a Real Ass Kicking (Itself)? Read the Dems' Disastrous "Super Committee" Proposal

If you've ever questioned whether the so-called "Super Committee" represents a breakdown in the democratic process, yesterday's proposal from the group's Democratic members should put your doubts to rest. The system's seriously broken when unelected super-legislators from both parties keep trying to top each other in proposing inhumane and unpopular programs.

The party of the donkey is about to give itself a real ass-kicking.

Representatives from the "party of the people" want to cut Medicare and Social Security, and they're looking for bragging rights on who'd cut government more in a time of need.

If the regular folks' party is trying to impose this much pain on the elderly, poor, and disabled, what's the rich people's party going to do: sacrifice babies in Times Square on live television?....

The "Super Dems" are proposing twice as much in deficit cuts as the Committee's mandated to find. That bit of pointless grandstanding reinforces conservative notions that government spending is evil and deficits are our most urgent problem.

It's straight out of the Bill Clinton playbook. But Clinton operated in a period of artificially pumped up, bubble-fueled prosperity. Americans hunger for better policies now. That hunger helped Democrats win the White House and both houses of Congress in 2008. (Seems so long ago, doesn't it?) The Democratic Party website still proudly proclaims the Party's slogan: "Change That Matters."

Change? These are the same Republican Lite policies Clinton ran on in 1992. But we're a sadder and wiser nation now. We've reaped the bitter fruits of economic inequality and endured a disastrous crash as a result of these bipartisan policies. We've moved on, but these Democrats haven't. They're still slavishly (if meekly) echoing the failed conservative ideas of the past....
http://www.opednews.com/populum/linkframe.php?linkid=140327

That COCOON which protects the Ruling Elite and their crimes is made up of the DOJ and the Federal Reserve and Deregulation. They are also the weakest points.

The OCCUPY thrust/strategy should include targetting the WEAKEST POINTS in the Criminal Ruling Elite's cocoon of protection:

1. A DEMAND for JUSTICE made through an event at the Department of Justice in Washington and events at any of its offices across the nation are needed! Because the DOJ is NOT fully proactive in shutting down the criminality of the Ruling Power Elite.

2. A DEMAND for JUSTICE made at the scene of the crime -- The Federal Reserve which UNILATERALLY INSTITUTED the $2+TRILLIONS extralegal/illegal giveaway to the banks called QE 1 and QE 2 and did so SECRETLY without any authority from Congress. (See the reporting of David DeGraw on this.) The Federal Reserve is an institution being run as a criminal enterprise association.

3. A DEMAND for RE-REGULATION immediately to stop the 1%'s madness must be addressed to CONGRESS. Restore the Glass-Steagall Act and renew the strongest regulatory controls on corporations deviseable!

JUSTICE means stopping a cabal of Bankers in their tracks now and not letting the Department of Justice get away with (complicitly?) sleeping through THE SECOND DECADE OF THIS 21st Century CRIME WAVE!!!

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[Ever occur to you that the 1% is a CRIMINALLY INSANE group? CRIMINALLY INSANE! I mean, even lowly parasites don't kill their hosts without a biological cycle plan in place, do they?... And we would be insane too if we allowed them to continue to run the show! Thank Heaven for OCCUPY proving the "small people" (as the BP oil corporate official called us last year) are the sane ones. Yes, the sane "small people" will restore sanity to the system.]

http://www.democrats.com/protect-spirit-bear-coast

Just finished ;):( Need 2 Brew HaHa ... Tea Cheers

This is going to be fun...lol

"Ever occur to you that the 1% is a CRIMINALLY INSANE group?"

Amoral, Immoral, stupid, short sighted and sometimes criminal but not really insane at all.

Sanity is merely a measure of how well an individual functions within their environment and you would have a difficult time arguing that the 1% aren't doing quite well for themselves.

"... I mean, even lowly parasites don't kill their hosts without a biological cycle plan in place, do they?"

Wrong, it happens quite frequently in nature.

"...And we would be insane too if we allowed them to continue to run the show!"

Wrong again. If insanity can be truly defined as doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result, then repeating the over simplistic "throw the bums out" strategies that history is littered with and expecting a different result is well...insane.

"Thank Heaven for OCCUPY proving the "small people" (as the BP oil corporate official called us last year) are the sane ones."

And again...Wrong. Both sides are reacting out of self interest and by that measure, no matter what Occupy does the 1% will still "win".

"Yes, the sane "small people" will restore sanity to the system."

And yet again...Wrong. Occupy will only at best be able to secure the survival of one more generation.

It's not a moral, ethical, or legal problem.

One cookie, two babies, one will go hungry.

I agree, except I think WTP are trained To Be A Manic Depressive Society and the 1% IS INSANE and some AS BUSH are PSYCHOPATHS!
AND WTP HAVE SYMBOLIC Nose Rings (by the 1%) ~ and are led to the Tragedy of what they have involked - as bulls and cows - many to slaughter are DIRECTED/LED!

{giggle Nobody and I are using the same post - Nora's post ;) }

I had gone away after my last post this morning, meaning to come back, but never made it back to the Seder Window. I had written around 10 AM but never made it back. LOL. I had written the above (approximately) but never made it back to POST. ;) When I saw I never 'posted', then I saw yours from THIS MORNING, LOL, I just had to post since we were responding and saying similar. LOL

Pat Buchanan issued a stern warning to Occupy Wall Street this weekend.

In a round-table discussion on 'The McLaughlin Group', host John McLaughlin asked panelists about the future of the movement.

“It’s going to end very, very badly with these folks in the winter and they’re not going to be getting publicity and they’re going to be acting up and acting badly like the worst of the demonstrators in the 60s," Buchanan said. "They’re going to start fighting with the cops.”

Occupy Wall Street took a violent turn this week as Oakland police unleashed tear gas on protesters and injured an Iraq war veteran.

On Saturday, scores were arrested in Denver after protesters clashed with local law enforcement. When cops began to spray Mace on the crowd, several protestors reportedly retaliated by kicking and pushing police.

An Interview With Anthony DiMaggio
The Rise of the Tea Party
by SCOTT BORCHERT
Scott Borchert: Your primary focus as a scholar is on media and communications — so why a book on the Tea Party?

Anthony DiMaggio: I’ve also researched and participated in social movements and interest group politics consistently for the last ten years, although much of my research does focus on media and public opinion. My participation and study of these movements spans the anti-corporate globalization movement, the anti-Iraq movement, the anti-nuke movement, and the pro-labor Madison and OWS movements. This book project actually brought all three areas of my research – media, public opinion, and movements – together, examining the Tea Party as a conglomeration of interest groups, and measuring how they have influenced media coverage and public opinion. As someone who has taken part in and studied social movements for my entire adult life, I felt I was in a unique position, scholarly and in terms of practical experience, to make a unique contribution in these areas. I also focus quite closely in my popular writings on current events, so the Tea Party seemed like an appropriate area to focus on in light of the massive political and media attention it has received.

Borchert: Do you consider the Tea Party to be a real grassroots movement or purely orchestrated by elite institutions? Or a little of both?

DiMaggio: I think the rage driving the Tea Party – at least with regard to the 25 percent of Americans who claim to sympathize with it – is quite real and very understandable. The Tea Party is largely comprised of white, over 40-50, middle to upper income Americans who have generally done pretty well for themselves over the years, but are being pressured by the neoliberal attack on working Americans. They’re rightly angry at being excluded from the tremendous economic prosperity that has taken place over the last three decades. As corporations have grown enormously more profitable, and worker productivity and the size of the economy have grown dramatically, the median family wage has stagnated. This stagnation actually translates into a reduction in wages, since the number of dual income families has increased significantly. Whereas in decades past the median income was driven more by single income-earning males, now families earn a similar income with two earners. In short, the American middle class has been getting squeezed for decades, and the Tea Party “rebellion” (on some level) is a manifestation of real public anger at this phenomenon. That anger is understandable, even predictable.
http://www.counterpunch.org/2011/10/28/the-rise-of-the-tea-party/

(If so, dressed as what?)At last! The Fascist Threat

“Instead of the Sermon on the Mount, we are now confronted by well-funded conservative evangelicals promoting a sinister vision of America as a corporate autocracy, with Dominionists as Gauleiters of a totalitarian state religion.”

So Lawrence Swaim, Executive Director of the Interfaith Freedom Foundation wrote on this site last week. Swaim concluded with a familiar quote: “This recalls the prescient words of novelist Sinclair Lewis: ‘When fascism comes to America,’ he wrote in 1935, ‘it will come wrapped in the flag, and carrying a cross.’”

Not in my opinion. As a rule, the field of battle between secularism and our Christian ultras ends up stained with the blood of the latter, as Satan counter-attacks. Just glance at the the career of the original Know-Nothings or the history of prohibition. Indeed, looking across the American landscape, I’d say the Dark One has scant cause for lament amid quavering pieces about the Dominionist threat which so delight fundraisers for nonprofits touting the menace of Christian evangelism. Back in the god-sodden Fifties who could presage that a half century later tots could go online to view fornication in every guise and combination.

In my view fascism mostly crosses the threshold these days wrapped in Green clothing, with a thousand summary edicts, which people gloomily strain to read by the pallid glimmer of the new, mercury-filled light bulbs promoted by greens, the General Electric Corp., and signed into law by George Bush Jr. whose own timid effort to promote the fusion of church and state – allowing religious non-profits to run some government programs — didn’t fare too well.

The main purpose of invoking the fascist threat is to scare people into voting Democrat, as Frank Bardacke has often remarked to me. In 1964 it was the Goldwater threat, in 2011 – for now – the Perry threat. Obama will save us from fascism. Alas, fascism is currently wrapped in the decorous clothing of this self-same former constitutional professor.

Back on September 13, 2001, I wrote in a Los Angeles Times op-ed that “The lust for retaliation traditionally outstrips precision in identifying the actual assailant. The targets abroad will be all the usual suspects — the Taliban or Saddam Hussein, who started off as creatures of U.S. intelligence. The target at home will be the Bill of Rights.”

It was maybe an hour after the north tower of the World Trade Center collapsed that I heard the first of a thousand pundits that day saying that America might soon have to sacrifice “some of those freedoms we have taken for granted.” They said this with grave relish, as though the Bill of Rights – the first 10 amendments to the U.S. Constitution – was somehow responsible for the onslaught, and should join the rubble of the towers, carted off to New Jersey and exported to China for recycling into abutments for the Three Gorges Dam, with a special packet of “nano-thermite” (aka paint dust) reserved for Paul Craig Roberts to sprinkle on his porridge.

Of course it didn’t take 9/11 to give the Bill of Rights a battering. It is always under duress and erosion. Where there’s emergency, there’s opportunity for the enemies of freedom. The Patriot Act, passed in October 2001 (the bits that Bill Clinton’s DOJ forgot to put into the 1996 Anti-Terrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act) and periodically renewed in most of its essentials in the Bush and Obama years, kicked new holes in at least six of our Bill of Rights protections.

The government can search and seize citizens’ papers and effects without probable cause, spy on their electronic communications, and has, amid ongoing court battles on the issue, eavesdropped on their conversations without a warrant.

Goodbye to the right to a speedy public trial with assistance of counsel. Welcome indefinite incarceration without charges, denial of the assistance of legal counsel and of the right to confront witnesses or even have a trial. Until beaten back by the courts, the Patriot Act gave a sound whack at the 1st Amendment, too, since the government could now prosecute librarians or keepers of any records if they told anyone the government had subpoenaed information related to a terror investigation.

Let’s not forget that a suspect may be in no position to do any confronting or waiting for trial since American citizens deemed a threat to their country can be extrajudicially and summarily executed by order of the president, with the reasons for the order shielded from the light of day as “state secrets”. That takes us back to the bills of attainder the Framers expressly banned in Article One of the U.S. Constitution, about as far from the Bill of Rights as you can get.

There’s a difference between fascism and a efficiently functioning modern police state. America well into to the latter, instrumented by laws shoved through on a federal bipartisan basis and through state legislatures. Check out the DUI laws and penalties, state by state. A friend here in California was just telling me about a friend up on his second DUI, among whose penalties for his offense has been 45 days house arrest, with a camera installed to observe every move. No visitors allowed. He can go out for two hours a day to do his shopping. The supervising officer in semi-SWAT rig enters his house without knocking or permission at any time. Let’s not even talk about the treatment of sex offenders.
http://www.counterpunch.org/2011/09/16/is-fascism-coming-to-america-and-...

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/30/world/middleeast/united-states-plans-p...

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Another part of the administration’s post-Iraq planning involves the Gulf Cooperation Council, dominated by Saudi Arabia.
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http://www.military.com/news/article/us-quietly-assumes-military-posture...

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The U.S. also announced this month it is sending 100 advisers, most of them special forces, to help direct the fight against the rebel Lord's Resistance Army in Central Africa and efforts to kill or capture its leader, Joseph Kony, who is wanted by the International Criminal Court. In Libya, U.S. fighter planes helped rebels defeat former dictator Moammar Gadhafi.
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to protect global corporate interests at all costs

http://ifyoulovethisplanet.org/audio/IYLTP%20-%20Ep%20146.mp3

Dr. Caldicott interviews Bruce Gagnon, Coordinator of the Global Network Against Weapons & Nuclear Power in Space, for the second time in a month. Gagnon’s recent interview was well received, and this time the conversation explores further issues surrounding the weaponization of space, military spending and nuclear ethics around the world.

Topics discussed include the U.S. military goal of Full Spectrum Dominance under the document Vision 2020, how the U.S. Space Command protects corporate interests and threatens to attack nations which resist globalization, the sinister uses of space reconnaissance systems and the increasing number of spy satellites, the Conventional Prompt Global Strike program, how U.S. missile defense bases are escalating U.S. tensions with China and Russia, how the increasingly cluttered field of space weapons and satellites adds to the risk of accidental nuclear war, the companies profiting from the weaponization of space, the miltary’s aim to defund all social programs to fund new weapons, nuclear reactors and plutonium in space, cyberwarfare and hacking, how the trillion-dollar U.S. war budget is destroying the infrastructure of American society, and the Bring Our War Dollars Home campaign.

Read the September 2 article Pollution in Space: Space Junk ‘at Tipping Point’. Listen to
Dr. Caldicott’s earlier conversations with Gagnon here, here and here. And for much more background on the topics in this episode, visit space4peace.org and read War in Heaven by Dr. Caldicott and Craig Eisendrath.

You have meddled with the primal forces of nature, Mr. Beale, and I won't have it! Is that clear? You think you've merely stopped a business deal. That is not the case! The Arabs have taken billions of dollars out of this country, and now they must put it back! It is ebb and flow, tidal gravity! It is ecological balance! You are an old man who thinks in terms of nations and peoples. There are no nations. There are no peoples. There are no Russians. There are no Arabs. There are no third worlds. There is no West. There is only one holistic system of systems, one vast and immane, interwoven, interacting, multivariate, multinational dominion of dollars. Petro-dollars, electro-dollars, multi-dollars, reichmarks, rins, rubles, pounds, and shekels. It is the international system of currency which determines the totality of life on this planet. That is the natural order of things today. That is the atomic and subatomic and galactic structure of things today! And YOU have meddled with the primal forces of nature, and YOU... WILL... ATONE! Am I getting through to you, Mr. Beale? You get up on your little twenty-one inch screen and howl about America and democracy.

There is no America. There is no democracy.

There is only IBM, and ITT, and AT&T, and DuPont, Dow, Union Carbide, and Exxon. Those are the nations of the world today. What do you think the Russians talk about in their councils of state, Karl Marx? They get out their linear programming charts, statistical decision theories, minimax solutions, and compute the price-cost probabilities of their transactions and investments, just like we do. We no longer live in a world of nations and ideologies, Mr. Beale. The world is a college of corporations, inexorably determined by the immutable bylaws of business.

The world is a business, Mr. Beale. It has been since man crawled out of the slime. And our children will live, Mr. Beale, to see that... perfect world... in which there's no war or famine, oppression or brutality.

One vast and ecumenical holding company, for whom all men will work to serve a common profit, in which all men will hold a share of stock. All necessities provided, all anxieties tranquilized, all boredom amused. And I have chosen you, Mr. Beale, to preach this evangel.

references for this statement....

-And yet again...Wrong. Occupy will only at best be able to secure the survival of one more generation.-

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Often, the first line of defense for large corporations is the customer-service representatives who man their phones. But hackers say they often find these employees easy prey, because of their high turnover, low pay and desire to be helpful. "If you sound confident enough, they will usually give you whatever you want," said one member of the hacking group Anonymous, who declined to provide his name.

All it took was a few hours of surfing the web for Shane MacDougall, the winner of the hacking contest, called the Schmooze Strikes Back, to turn up enough information to poke through Oracle's defenses.

On Oracle's web site, Mr. MacDougall found a video of the Redwood Shores, Calif.-based company's security facilities. A little more surfing turned up photos of a company party in which employee identification badges were clearly visible.

Armed with this information, Mr. MacDougall posed as an Oracle employee who was gathering information for a government contract. He called a satellite office and within 25 minutes persuaded an unwitting employee to divulge details about Oracle's operating and anti-virus systems. That information could have enabled him to steal sensitive customer data had he been an actual hacker.

"What is the point of creating all these security measures if I can just schmooze my way inside?" Mr. MacDougall said.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405297020391180457665339358452890...

Online hackers threaten to expose cartel's secrets
Group called Anonymous demands release of one of their own who was kidnapped
By DANE SCHILLER, HOUSTON CHRONICLE
Updated 04:09 p.m., Saturday, October 29, 2011

An international group of online hackers is warning a Mexican drug cartel to release one of its members, kidnapped from a street protest, or it will publish the identities and addresses of the syndicate's associates, from corrupt police to taxi drivers, as well as reveal the syndicates' businesses.

The vow is a bizarre cyber twist to Mexico's ongoing drug war, as a group that has no guns is squaring off against the Zetas, a cartel blamed for thousands of deaths as well as introducing beheadings and other frightening brutality.

"You made a huge mistake by taking one of us. Release him," says a masked man in a video posted online on behalf of the group, Anonymous.

"We cannot defend ourselves with a weapon … but we can do this with their cars, homes, bars, brothels and everything else in their possession," says the man, who is wearing a suit and tie.
Continue reading

...and there are those with the script and the rest of us improvising.

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-10-31/palestinians-admitted-to-une...

funding to UNESCO if Palestinian membership was approved.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/u-s-palestinian-unesco-mem...

Of the 1%, by the 1%, for the 1%
Americans have been watching protests against oppressive regimes that concentrate massive wealth in the hands of an elite few. Yet in our own democracy, 1 percent of the people take nearly a quarter of the nation’s income—an inequality even the wealthy will come to regret.
By Joseph E. Stiglitz
(May 2011)

“…Alexis de Tocqueville once described what he saw as a chief part of the peculiar genius of American society—something he called “self-interest properly understood.” The last two words were the key. Everyone possesses self-interest in a narrow sense: I want what’s good for me right now! Self-interest “properly understood” is different. It means appreciating that paying attention to everyone else’s self-interest—in other words, the common welfare—is in fact a precondition for one’s own ultimate well-being.Tocqueville was not suggesting that there was anything noble or idealistic about this outlook—in fact, he was suggesting the opposite. It was a mark of American pragmatism. Those canny Americans understood a basic fact: looking out for the other guy isn’t just good for the soul—it’s good for business.

“The top 1 percent have the best houses, the best educations, the best doctors, and the best lifestyles, but there is one thing that money doesn’t seem to have bought: an understanding that their fate is bound up with how the other 99 percent live. Throughout history, this is something that the top 1 percent eventually do learn. Too late.”
http://www.vanityfair.com/society/features/2011/05/top-one-percent-20110...

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/240740/20111031/10-women-u-s-technology....

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/unesco-votes-to-ad...

...Ew, man we suck...

Tell me if you see the same thing, and are people talking about this part of it--

After the police already injured Scott Olsen and Olsen was lying infront of the barricade, and occupiers were rushing in to try to help the injured Olsen, and the police fired another round of tear gas cannisters RIGHT AT THE INJURED MAN and the people who were trying to help him.

Now that is police brutality on steroids.

voting to admit/recognize Palestine....

USA position as far from a peaceful direction as one can imagine.

Really amazing that the repeated line of Israel is the "Israel has a right to exist" theme.

Apartheid is the chauvinists' most obvious expression. One of the apartheid dividing lines is now, obviously, 'the right to exist'.

And the only anthrax threat is weaponized one the government manufactures in its own labs?

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/10/28/MNA31LNQ5S.D...

[excerpt]

Washington --

A key panel of government advisers Friday recommended that the federal government sponsor a controversial study to test the anthrax vaccine in children to see whether the inoculation would protect young Americans against a bioterrorist's attack.

The National Biodefense Science Board, which advises the federal government on issues related to bioterrorism, voted 12-1 to recommend that the Health and Human Services Department move forward with a study aimed at determining whether the vaccine is safe and effective in children and identifying the best dose. Patricia Quinlisk of the Iowa Department of Public Health, who chairs the panel, was the only dissenter.

"We need to know more about the safety and immunogenicity of the vaccine as we develop plans to use the vaccine on a large number of children in the event of a bioterrorist's attack," said Ruth Berkelman of Emory University, a panel member.

The panel adopted Berkelman's suggestion that the study undergo further review by another panel to specifically examine the difficult ethical concerns it would raise.

Nicole Lurie, the assistant HHS secretary for preparedness and response who requested the panel's review, said officials would consider the panel's recommendation, but she did not give a time frame for a decision.

While an overwhelming majority of the panel endorsed conducting a study, several critics said such tests would be unethical, unnecessary and dangerous.

"The trial would expose healthy children to substantial harm with no possibility of benefit," said Vera Sharav of the Alliance for Human Research Protection, a New York advocacy group.

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Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/10/28/MNA31LNQ5S.D...

Very interesting lecture talking mostly about historian Carroll Quigley's role in keeping the history of the Cecil Rhodes' legacy that moves forward now to control the world economy and guarantee prosperity for a VERY few and servitude for the restovus.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fg8dMWU5K20&feature=related

More on Carroll Quigley --

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carroll_Quigley

[I don't get the lecturer's comments on communists and social democrats, so I hope maybe somebody here might decipher that bit, as I guess that part went over my head. Wasn't the communist revolution financed by some of the same individuals in Britain, individuals who sought to test some 'controlling the masses' stuff in a living laboratory or something? Anyway, I've seen the two separate forces as 1/ the total feudal controllers (happy to be feudal lords) and 2/ those ailling to share something with 'the small people' possibly in the form of social programs via social democracy.]

[Also, Bridge, have you seen this talk, yet. I'm curious what you'd think.]

"Yeah, Nobody....you're going to need one or more reliable
references for this statement...."

"-And yet again...Wrong. Occupy will only at best be able to secure the survival of one more generation.-"

Jobs = consumption = waste = pollution = climate change = food & water shortages, emigration, over crowding, disease, social unrest = desperation = stupid mistakes = game over.

And this is by 2020, by 2050 survival will very much be unsure for everyone, by 2100 expect 98% of the present population numbers to be gone.

You want references?...How about everything that's been written on the subject for the past 50 years?...If you've somehow missed all of that then there is little I can do now to educate you.

The only path to survival is complete self sufficiency...Good luck with that.

Are those early snowstorms the result of geoengineering weather modification?

If they are, then wouldn't those geoengineers-weather modifiers be murdering people?

ANTHONY GREGORY reviews the PATRIOT ACT--

http://consortiumnews.com/2011/11/01/a-decade-of-patriot-act-abuses/

[excerpt]

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It also nationalized library records; created severe federal penalties for non-violent, white-collar crimes of insufficient disclosure concerning money transfers; vastly pumped up border security; increased the jurisdiction of the Selective Service; and empowered the FBI and other federal officials to use “national security letters” to subpoena information from private actors without anything approaching probable cause and in conjunction with gag orders that prevent the recipients of such letters to tell their attorneys, families, or anyone else that they received them.

Further, it redefined “terrorism” to include crimes that previously were never considered to be terrorism; significantly eroded the Fourth Amendment; and did a number of other things to accelerate the central state’s powers and police activities in the name of fighting terrorism.

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For a couple years after it was passed, conservative champions of the Act often would ask rhetorically for one example of innocents being abused by the Act. This was always a silly argument, and I never understood why people repeated it with such certitude. The abuses began as soon as the Act was used. As James Bovard has written:

“The first person convicted under the PATRIOT Act was Mohamed Hussein, a 33-year-old Somali native who ran a money-forwarding service out of Boston. Though Hussein was convicted merely for not having a state license, federal prosecutors sought a harsh sentence. Federal Judge Robert Keeton was outraged: ‘You’re trying to ask me to sentence him as a terrorist. It shocks my conscience that I would even be asked to do that.’”

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The Act has now survived for ten years — ten years too long. One can only guess whether the Republic can survive another decade of the destructive war on freedom waged under the banner of anti-terrorism.

[more at link]

of occupiers concerns.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t571zLjgE_8

How convenient for the big banks. Now they can just join the World Central Bank called for by the Pope. Sheesh.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/45013499/Vatican_Calls_for_Central_World_Bank_to_...

[excerpt]

...[The 18-page Vatican Justice department document] called for the establishment of "a supranational authority" with worldwide scope and "universal jurisdiction" to guide economic policies and decisions.

[read more at link]

Aspartame made from GMO bacteria process...

http://naturalsociety.com/1999-investigation-finds-aspartame-is-made-wit...

All the clowns that spill out of that GOP clown car at these debates--why is it like this?

My personal feeling is that ONLY IF EVERY GOP CANDIDATE PUT FORWARD IS A CLOWN can the electorate be convinced that JEB BUSH looks good.

And there is no way the BushCrimeFamily/NaziBushClan will be satisfied unless Jeb Bush gets into the White House eventually.

What purpose (logical, useful, noble) is this supposed to serve anyway?

I'm putting this one in the science file labeled 'PATHOLOGICAL CURIOSITY'...

Messing up our Planet isn't enough for these guys. Now they want to boil outer space (climate change on a growth curve)...

This has got to be the last one for tonight. One can look at just so much out of control behavior by the Power Elite...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/8857154/Worlds-most-powe...

Have you had enough? New party on the horizon
The former Mayor of Salt Lake City and Executive Director of High Road for Human Rights, Rocky Anderson, calls for the formation of a new political party and a sustained movement committed to the public interest.

Two months ago, Anderson “divorced himself” from what he referred to as “the spineless, gutless Democratic Party.” Responding to an email from the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, which showed as the subject, “Standing strong,” Anderson wrote: “How dare you send an email with the subject line ‘Standing strong.’ You didn’t do it on Iraq, you didn’t do it on torture, you didn’t do it on signing statements, you haven’t done it onAfghanistan, you haven’t done it on defense spending, you haven’t done it on real health care reform, you haven’t done it on the debt ceiling fiasco.”

(Rolly: Rocky Anderson says adieu to the Democratic Party,” The Salt Lake Tribune, August 12, 2011.)........

Anderson said that people are fed up with the Democratic and Republican parties, Congress, and the Obama administration to the point of being ready to support a new party that rejects the corporatism and militarism of the two “Wall Street lap-dog” major parties.

The polls support Anderson’s view that the people of the United States are desirous of a new party, and bold, new leadership, like never before. Patrick Caddell and Douglas Shoen have written:

“The United States is in the midst of what we would both call a pre-Revolutionary moment, and there is widespread support for fundamental change in the system. An increasing number of Americans are now searching beyond the two parties for bold and effective leadership.”....

Rocky Anderson has been in the process of contacting some of America’s leading social, environmental and political activists with the goal of creating a powerful, broad-based political alternative to the increasingly unpopular Republican and Democratic Parties. He intends that the new party will have candidates in local, state, and federal races throughout the nation.

Anderson plans on hosting a meeting soon between leaders in various sectors of the country in order to draft a new platform and a long-term strategy capable of attracting a majority of voters, including millions of dissatisfied Democrats and Republicans who, until now, had nowhere else to go.

Anderson has stated his intention to do what is possible to get on the ballots in all 50 states and to campaign for candidates aggressively in all states. “The Democratic and Republican Parties have acted as if voters have no other real options. The people of this country will demonstrate that we, indeed, have another option – a party that will work in the public interest, rather than for the defense contractors, the health insurance companies, and the rapacious financial institutions that have caused such economic havoc in our nation and the world.”........
http://my.firedoglake.com/alanmaki/2011/11/01/have-you-had-enough-new-pa...

That's what colonies of Israel do.

A New and Frightening Stuxnet
Wednesday 02 November 2011
by: Richard Sale, Truthout | Report

Facing mounting concern about Iran's nuclear program, a top US and Israeli technical team has developed an improved computer "malworm" designed to take down all of Iran's computer software.

According to former and serving US intelligence officials, leaders of the three major software companies, Sergey Brin at Google, Steve Ballmer at Microsoft and Larry Ellison at Oracle have been working with Israel's top cyber warriors and have now come up with a new version of a Stuxnet-like worm that can bring down Iran's entire software networks if the Iranian regime gets too close to breakout, according to US intelligence sources......

Throughout the summer, US officials strenuously resisted the urgings of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu for a pre-emptive strike.

Several senior US intelligence officials confirmed large contingency planning drills for an intervention if Israel attacked Iran. Planning for such an intervention was seen as "pretty far advanced," a US official said in July.

These officials reported they were resisting such notions with all the force they could. But one cautioned, "This is no drill."

But matters became more complicated when the FBI uncovered an Iranian terrorist operation targeted in Washington, DC, that could have supported long-time American hard liners as well as Israeli supporters of some type of military attack on Iran.

A compounding factor is the Saudi position - telling President Obama the Saudis strongly support a military campaign against Iran. Saudi officials are now signaling the Israelis that Saudi King Abd'allah is in favor of a strike on Iran.

This new Stuxnet worm is being advanced by administration and intelligence officials as a more powerful tool with a stronger range and capability than the previous version. Officials want this new cyber capability to derail any military action that could result in a regional war....
http://www.truthout.com/new-and-frightening-stuxnet/1320167469

by BAR editor and senior columnist Margaret Kimberley

The Greek government, after months of demonstrations by a citizenry that rejects impoverishment for the sake of the bankers, has promised to submit the bailout plan to a referendum. This should be a lesson to the Occupy Wall Street movement and the U.S. public in general: force the issue, or the issue will be forced upon you. “Americans think that backing two political parties who are both eager to work in the interests of banksters is a solution to averting a disaster despite the fact that the disaster never ends.”

Freedom Rider: Shaking the System

by BAR editor and senior columnist Margaret Kimberley

“If only American politicians had to fear their people as much as their European counterparts do.”

The European debt crisis is but one symptom of the crisis in which the capitalist system finds itself. The years of accumulated “fictitious” capital, followed by a succession of ruptured market bubbles, were all signs that the system is like Humpty Dumpty, unlikely to be put back together again.

Greece is the current focus of attention, with American markets rising or falling based on the status of negotiations among the Eurozone leadership. Greece’s “partners” agreed to bail out that nation only on the condition that it impoverish its citizens. Yet because of sustained protest against the austerity measures, the prime minister has promised his people a referendum on the plan, which has thrown domestic politics and international finance into a state of turmoil.

The turmoil cannot be confined to Europe either. Former New Jersey governor Jon Corzine is in the news because the commodities firm that he heads, MF Global, was caught up in the European crisis and has now filed for bankruptcy. Corzine is a former Goldman Sachs executive who self-financed his own political campaigns for senator and governor. If there were a poster child for the unholy alliance between money and politics, Corzine should be it.

The fortunes of American firms and European politicians are not looking very promising these days, and that is a good thing. Greek Prime Minister Papandreou can’t close the rotten deal because his people won’t stand for it. As a result of popular actions such as strikes and demonstrations, he must offer a referendum which puts the entire system on notice and across the ocean MF Global and the American markets go in the tank.

“Greece’s ‘partners’ agreed to bail out that nation only on the condition that it impoverish its citizens.”

It is an important lesson for Americans. Greeks and other people around the world aren’t taken in by predictions of doom from the high and mighty. They have declared loudly and clearly that they will not pay a price because of corruption committed without their knowledge and consent.

The Occupy Wall Street movement should sit up and take notice............
http://www.blackagendareport.com/content/freedom-rider-shaking-system

Bloody Hell!

"Freak early snowstorms in the US

Are those early snowstorms the result of geoengineering weather modification?

If they are, then wouldn't those geoengineers-weather modifiers be murdering people?"

No, in fact they're a result of climate change, i.e. warmer air holds more moisture.

This tied to a double la nina year and the end of the 40 year Pacific cycle made it more than easy to predict, further more, the 40 year cycle should bring colder and wetter winters across the north while simultaneously bringing hotter drier summers across the south for the next 8 years.

In other words...Every type of severe weather that this country sees will become regular events for the next decade.

"Laser experiment to boil outerspace"

"What purpose (logical, useful, noble) is this supposed to serve anyway?"

I'm afraid that you wouldn't understand the answer.

"I'm putting this one in the science file labeled 'PATHOLOGICAL CURIOSITY'..."

Fear of facts has made you the person you are today.

"Messing up our Planet isn't enough for these guys. Now they want to boil outer space (climate change on a growth curve)..."

Are you seriously suggesting that it's the scientists that are responsible for climate change?

"This has got to be the last one for tonight. One can look at just so much out of control behavior by the Power Elite..."

WIZARDS SCARE ME!

My one joy at the thought of a societal breakdown is that morons like you don't have a hope in hell of surviving it.

Just tell me that you haven't passed your genes on...please.

"Do as I Say, Not as I Do"

"...A bill was introduced in the Senate on October 26th, that allows the U.S. government to go after anyone who builds a tool designed for the "circumvention" of or "bypassing" a blocked website.

"The Obama administration's policy moves, contradictions and failures create dangerous precedents for freedom of information. If the United States legitimizes cellphone blackouts, intimidates or forces reporters for their sources or fails to open any investigation on reporters arrested on their soil, they could also be viewed as an offender of freedom of information and therefore undermine their own democracy policy inside and abroad. Americans need and deserve better freedom of information, not less."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeanfran/us-freedom-of-the-press_b_1067331...

The Senate Bill-PROTECT IP Act

Dozens of law professors: PROTECT IP Act is unconstitutional
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/07/dozens-of-law-professors...

Turns out it really was about someone making a profit on weapons and oil...the Russians...

Gaddafi fall cost Russia tens of blns in arms deals

ST PETERSBURG, Russia Nov 2 (Reuters) - Russia lost tens of billions of dollars in potential revenues from arms deals with Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi's fall, the official in charge of Russia's arms exports said on Wednesday.

...

Such was the discord within the Russian elite over Libya that it provoked a rare public disagreement between Prime Minister Vladimir Putin and President Dmitry Medvedev.

Russian companies have invested hundreds of millions of dollars in oil and gas exploration there, and Russian Railways was building a railway under a 2.2 billion euro ($3 billion)contract.

Arms contracts signed under Gaddafi's rule made up 12 percent of Russia's 2010 arms exports, worth a total of $10 billion. An arms embargo imposed in February caused Russia to forfeit $4 billion in new contracts.

Viktor Bout, Russian arms dealer, found guilty on terrorism charges

A Russian arms dealer has been convicted of seeking to make millions of dollars by selling heavy weaponry to a terror group so it could attack what prosecutors said he told his customers was a common enemy — US forces helping the Colombian government.

A jury reached the verdict in the case against Viktor Bout after deliberating since Tuesday in federal court in Manhattan. He was convicted of conspiracy to kill Americans and US officials, deliver anti-aircraft missiles and aid a terrorist organization.

Bout, a former Soviet military officer once known in the international arms market as the Merchant of Death, was arrested overseas in an elaborate sting in 2008. He had been transferred to the United States to face the allegations he sought to supply weapons on the black market to the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, or the Farc.

In secret negotiations with Drug Enforcement Administration informants posing as Colombian operatives, Bout "did everything he could to show he could be the one-stop shop for Farc," assistant US attorney Brendan McGuire said in closing arguments.

He just is. What he does, we call normal news.

The hits just keep rolling in...
Submitted by Nobody on Thu, 11/03/2011 - 10:17am.

Along those lines, obama must have threatened Papandreou with a knife up the butt if he didn't tow the corporatist line. The referendum is off:

Beleaguered Prime Minister George Papandreou said after an emergency meeting of his Socialist cabinet that his call this week for a referendum, which sparked panic on global financial markets, "was never a purpose in itself," and he would be happy if the vote were not held.

Papandreou said he had agreed to talks with the center-right opposition on a transitional government to implement a new EU/IMF bailout program. Early elections would follow.....
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/03/us-g-idUSTRE7A20E920111103

Ban Ki-moon: Palestinian membership of UN agencies is 'not beneficial'

Millions of people could be affected if UN agencies see their funding cut as a result of the Palestinian bids, he says

The UN secretary general, Ban Ki-moon, has said Palestinian efforts to join other United Nations agencies beyond its cultural arm are "not beneficial for Palestine and not beneficial for anybody".

Millions of people could be affected if UN agencies see their funding cut as a result of the Palestinian bids, he said in an interview on Thursday at the sidelines of the G20 summit in Cannes.

The US and Canada have cut off funding for Unesco since the Paris-based UN cultural agency approved a Palestinian membership bid – stripping it of about one-quarter of its total funding.

Ban said the Palestinian Authority's foreign minister had indicated that it would apply for membership of the 16 other UN agencies.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/nov/03/ban-ki-moon-palestinian-un

Israeli PM orders investigation into Iran leak

Kuwaiti paper says Binyamin Netanyahu believes the heads of the Mossad and Shin Bet may have leaked plans for attack

Israel's prime minister has ordered an investigation into alleged leaks of plans to attack Iran's nuclear facilities, it has been reported.

According to the Kuwaiti newspaper al-Jarida, the main suspects are the former heads of the Mossad and the Shin Bet, respectively Israel's foreign and domestic intelligence agencies.

Netanyahu is said to believe that the two, Meir Dagan and Yuval Diskin, wanted to torpedo plans being drawn up by him and Ehud Barak, the defence minister, to hit Iranian nuclear sites. Tzipi Livni, leader of the opposition Kadima party, is also said to have been persuaded to attack Netanyahu for "adventurism" and "gambling with Israel's national interest".

The paper suggested that the purpose of the leaks was to prevent an attack, which had moved from the stage of discussion to implementation. "Those who oppose the plan within the security establishment decided to leak it to the media and thwart the plan," it said....

The debate in Israel was further fanned on Wednesday when Israel successfully test-fired a missile capable of carrying a nuclear warhead and striking Iran.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/nov/03/israeli-pm-investigation-ira...

Libya: Abdurrahim al-Keib named new interim PM
Libya's interim authorities have named Tripoli academic Abdurrahim al-Keib as the new prime minister.

The National Transitional Council (NTC) made the announcement days after declaring the country "liberated" following the death of Colonel Gaddafi....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-15530640

Dr. Abdurrahim El-Keib joined The University of Alabama as an Assistant Professor of Electrical Engineering in 1985 and became Professor in 1996. He has taught at The University of Tripoli, North Carolina State University, The University of Alabama, the American University of Sharjah, and recently at The Petroleum Institute in UAE. He supervised many MSc Theses and PhD Dissertations and is recipient of several teaching and research awards...........
http://www.pi.ac.ae/PI_ACA/ee/faculty_staff/aelkeib.php

The Petroleum Institute (PI) is a private engineering school in Sas Al Nakhl, Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates, focused primarily on petroleum engineering and research, and funded by several major international oil companies. The goal of the institute is to provide the local oil and gas industry with highly skilled engineers.[citation needed]

The Institute was established in 2000 by an Emiri decree under the direction of His Highness Sheikh Khalifa bin Zayed Al Nahyan, ruler of Abu Dhabi and the president of the United Arab Emirates. It is financed and governed by a consortium of five major oil companies: ADNOC, Royal Dutch Shell, BP, Total S.A., and Japan Oil Development Company, a wholly owned subsidiary of INPEX.......
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petroleum_Institute

http://www.pi.ac.ae/PI_INS/eo/ann/intro.php

The NATO led coup against Qaddafi was simply a repetition of Eisenhower's coup against Mossadegh (Project AJAX).

"Along those lines, obama must have threatened Papandreou with a knife up the butt if he didn't tow the corporatist line. The referendum is off:"

and here I'd almost forgotten what a moron you can be...

If there was any pressure put on Greece it was from Sarkozy and Merkel, who were refusing to bail them out. Washington on the other hand is putting pressure on them to bail Greece out.

Do you even make it a whole paragraph into an article before you decide that you already know what it says and just stop reading?

Repeated use of non sequiturs tend to point towards serious mental health issues.

"Meet liberated Libya's new Yankee/oil puppet--"

Remember what I just said about non sequiturs?

The oil contracts existed before the revolution in Libya...

The only thing that's changed in respect to the oil is that supporters of Gaddafi, like Russia (whom really hated to see the loss of such a big spending client) have lost their contracts.

Biggest jump ever seen in global warming gases

WASHINGTON (AP) — The global output of heat-trapping carbon dioxide jumped by the biggest amount on record, the U.S. Department of Energy calculated, a sign of how feeble the world's efforts are at slowing man-made global warming.

The new figures for 2010 mean that levels of greenhouse gases are higher than the worst case scenario outlined by climate experts just four years ago.

"The more we talk about the need to control emissions, the more they are growing," said John Reilly, co-director of MIT's Joint Program on the Science and Policy of Global Change.

The world pumped about 564 million more tons (512 million metric tons) of carbon into the air in 2010 than it did in 2009. That's an increase of 6 percent. That amount of extra pollution eclipses the individual emissions of all but three countries — China, the United States and India, the world's top producers of greenhouse gases.

Eco leaders in late 60s and 70s were closer; however, it were Earth First and Scientists to what could happen ~ now does happen today. :(

I have questions regarding "floating islands". Anyone wish to "tackle" the topic?

BTW Tea Cheers {with tea ;} Sederville.
;)

Welcome to Democracy Now!, Michael Hudson. What is happening right now? The significance of Obama being in the south of France at the G20 meeting, and the possibility of the Greek prime minister being thrown out?

MICHAEL HUDSON: Well, you’ve asked about three questions there. Obama is here to represent the interests of the American banks. And the Europeans are very angry that a few weeks ago Tim Geithner, the bank lobbyist, came over and insisted that Europe not forgive Greece’s bank loans, not let Greece write down the loans, and indeed that it not even claim that Greece should do what Argentina is and write down the loans as a premise.....

....Mr. Geithner explained to the Europeans that the largest insurers of the Greek debt are American money market funds and hedge funds. And he said American hedge funds and banks would lose money and actually would crash the U.S. economy, if Europe made a concession to Greece to bring debts down to the ability to pay....

So, instead of a debt write-down or a haircut, the banks said, “OK, we will agree with what the Americans are insisting on, and we will ask for a voluntary write-down by the banks on the Greek debt they hold.” Obviously, European banks who are not part of the credit default swaps have disagreed with this. So the Americans are putting immense pressure on Europe, saying, “We will wreck your economy, if you don’t wreck Greece’s economy.”

Because of the problem in Greece you have had the riots in the street, you have had the demonstrations. The demonstrations in Athens are much like the Occupy Wall Street demonstrations here, and similar ones in Iceland. They were to show that the Greek people were not behind the bailout, and to let the international banks know that if the so-called rescue operation—that is, the German and European rescue of the French banks and the German banks and the American banks that hold the Greek bonds, not the rescue of Greece—were to go through, this was unpopular. Under international law this meant that the Greeks could repudiate the debt. So, you heard on Monday, Mr. Papandreou said: “We’re going to have a referendum on whether to go along with the austerity plan or not.” The principle is the same that the president of Iceland said earlier this year: if you’re going to plunge an economy into a decade of depression and force much of its population to leave the country to find jobs, the population has to have a vote....

AMY GOODMAN: And the significance of President Obama being there, and what this means—the meeting of the G20, what is happening in Greece—for the United States?

MICHAEL HUDSON: He’s making the threat that Europe has to cut its own throat in order to save the United States hedge funds and banks from taking a loss on the Greek bonds that they’ve insured. One of the reasons that people have been willing to buy Greek bonds is they bought credit insurance. And the European banks, mostly—maybe not Barclays or Deutsche Bank, but most banks—are not willing to write credit insurance, because everybody at the Böckler Foundation conference here in Berlin, every single economist says there is no conceivable way in which Greece can pay its debts. But the American hedge funds and bankers have come in and said, “We’ll write a guarantee.” Then they lean on President Obama and Tim Geithner to tell the Europeans: “You have to make Greece pay, so that we win the bets that we’ve made, because if we lose the bets, then we go under and the stock market crashes, and a lot of people can’t collect on their money market funds.” So this is just naked brute force that Mr. Obama is doing. He’s basically telling Europe, “Don’t go the democratic route. Support Wall Street.”

AMY GOODMAN: Michael Hudson, economist, president of the Institute for the Study of Long-Term Economic Trends, distinguished research professor of economics at University of Missouri, Kansas City, author of Super Imperialism: The Economic Strategy of American Empire.
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2011/11/michael-hudson-on-the-showdown-in...

Don't Be Big Banks' Puppet; No Immunity Deal for Crooks

Posted Nov. 4, 2011, 11:28 a.m. EST by OccupyWallSt

To help expose the looming cash-for-immunity deal between the Obama administration and big banks, there will be a march from Liberty Square to the U.S. Court House Building at Foley Square on November 5th.

The march will gather at 2:00pm on the east side steps at Liberty Square (Zuccotti Park), and will arrive at Foley Square at 3:00pm. Join the Facebook event page

President Obama is on the brink of cutting a backroom deal that would give bankers broad immunity for illegally throwing tens of thousands of Americans out of their homes. The Administration is pressuring state attorneys general to abandon an ongoing investigation into the massive "robo-signing" fraud, in exchange for a relatively small payoff by the banks.
http://occupywallst.org/

Under state control, Pontiac’s water goes to troubled company
United Water lost contracts in Atlanta, Milwaukee, Gary, Camden

The company with the contract to operate Pontiac’s water system has a record of service problems in other cities and is facing felony charges, but it’s unclear whether these issues were taken into account before closing the deal because the contract was issued by an Emergency Manager who is not accountable to local residents....

Under Michigan’s recently-enacted Local Government and School District Fiscal Accountability Act. state-appointed Emergency Managers have broad new powers that include the ability to cancel labor contracts and overrule elected officials.

Pontiac Council member Kermit Williams said he learned that water operations had been privatized after the fact when Stampfler sent a memo to city officials.

“I didn’t see any bid go out,” he said, “and they usually advertise in the Oakland Press.”

Williams said that he believes that the state does not require Emergency Managers to go through a bidding process when contracting for professional services.....

Shortly after the deal was announced, residents raised questions about United Water’s indictment on multiple felony charges related to tampering with environmental sampling at the Gary, Indiana wastewater treatment plant. Just months before the Pontiac deal federal prosecutors had charged United Water with violating the Clean Water Act by boosting disinfectant levels in the water just before sampling for E. coli.

Possible environmental crimes were not the only red flag.

At the time of the indictment Gary, Indiana had already ended its relationship with United Water after deciding that the system could be publicly run at half the cost.

According to research complied by the group Food and Water Watch, United Water cut staff in Gary and sewer lines collapsed due to lack of maintenance.

This type of service problem was not unique to Gary. Over the last decade the cities of Houston, Milwaukee, Atlanta and Camden, NJ all ended deals with United Water amid cost overruns, and maintenance and environmental problems.

The situation in Camden has special resonance for Pontiac because the contract with United Water was made not by elected officials, but by a state-appointed Chief Operating Officer with broad powers to rearrange the finances of the economically-troubled city....

“Lack of water production monitoring by UW has caused the city to have an unaccounted for water loss percentage comparable to that of developing countries,” the comptroller’s office found. “Specifically, we found that water loss in the City averaged approximately 45 percent for the years 2004-2008.”

After this audit came out, Camden stopped payments to United Water and sued for $29 million but ultimately settled with the company and was forced to pay them $4 million for ending the contract early.

New Jersey Comptroller Matthew Boxer said that Camden’s experience with water privatization should be a lesson for all municipalities....
http://michiganmessenger.com/53740/under-state-control-pontiac%e2%80%99s...

a moron quoting a moron...how very Escher.

Greeces economy is already fucked.

They have very low taxes though...Which is how come they have such a large deficit...

You do realize that every country on this planet has a right wing...right?

It's not an american invention it's based in biology...

My advice to Greece and every one else for that matter is still the same...focus on self sufficiency...

My advice for you...stop being such a pissy bitch.

"I have questions regarding "floating islands". Anyone wish to "tackle" the topic?"

In what regards?...

There are a lot of ways that such things could be used but they're more expensive to build than land based systems.

If you're in a flood zone, it might just pay to have a floating house though...

Let me know what your idea is and I'll be able to give you a better run down...It's actually a question that's in my area of expertize for a change...lol

Submitted by nora on Wed, 11/02/2011 - 5:26am
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Submitted by Nobody on Thu, 11/03/2011 - 7:43am.

"Freak early snowstorms in the US

Are those early snowstorms the result of geoengineering weather modification?

If they are, then wouldn't those geoengineers-weather modifiers be murdering people?"

No, in fact they're a result of climate change, i.e. warmer air holds more moisture.

This tied to a double la nina year and the end of the 40 year Pacific cycle made it more than easy to predict, further more, the 40 year cycle should bring colder and wetter winters across the north while simultaneously bringing hotter drier summers across the south for the next 8 years.

In other words...Every type of severe weather that this country sees will become regular events for the next decade.

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Laser experiment to boil outerspace

Submitted by nora on Wed, 11/02/2011 - 7:18am.

What purpose (logical, useful, noble) is this supposed to serve anyway?

I'm putting this one in the science file labeled 'PATHOLOGICAL CURIOSITY'...

Messing up our Planet isn't enough for these guys. Now they want to boil outer space (climate change on a growth curve)...

This has got to be the last one for tonight. One can look at just so much out of control behavior by the Power Elite...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/8857154/Worlds-most-powe...

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Look, Nobody, if they can proudly boil outerspace, why the heck do you maintain the Authorities and Disaster Capitalists are not capable of purposely (or even accidently) causing climate fluctuations -- especially by means of dumping TONS of aerosoles (whether as cloud seeding or claimed as a sun reflector) into the atmosphere? Weather modification is so usual a practice now that the geoengineering perpetrators are rolling out the programs to present for government funding; how odd that all the bad weather now makes "necessary" a new money$tream to be paid for by The Public to be "applied" to "stop" climate change via geoengineering technology. What a COINCIDENCE! I think not. (Saving the world by shooting a nuclear missile into outerspace only works in a movie script. But what is fooling the people but coming up with scenarios/MovieScripts that will 'sell'/convince/fool?)

If this weird weather situation is hard to get our minds around, could that be because a significant portion of what is going on is merely a script-like SCENARIO? Could it be possible that the scenario exists as a result of some portion of climate change being only a geoengineered hoax (a hoax that consistently also would make considerable profits for casino-style investment gamblers and insurance schemers who bet that crops fail or succeed, bet that the need for certain products will go up or down (depending on whether or not an area is flooded or goes without electricity, etc.?).

If they sold The People on the Twin Towers and Bulding 7 falling into their footprints from fire, they must feel that they can sell people on the illusion that EVERY DOLLAR of their Disaster Profiteering profits was based in reality, too!

No longer do we live in just the Madison Avenue Consumer/Advertising Age that convinced us that we needed tons of plastic crap even when we never 'needed' it. We now live in the Madison Avenue Consumer/Advertising/ILLUSION Age that can sell us all manner of illusions -- like the illusion that our country is crawling with fellow Americans who are terrorists and for this reason we must PERMANENTLY SURRENDER OUR CIVIL RIGHTS and protections and allow even our children to be dangerously x-rayed and to be publicly groped.

Come to think of it, many of the key points in our own history are a result of other illusions and propaganda -- can you pronounce: Sinking of the Main (Spanish American War), Gulf of Tonkin (Vietnam War), Bay of Pigs (faked civil war scheme in Cuba which failed), Edward Bernays' propaganda for the United Fruit Company (one of a long string of successful destabilizations of Central and South American nations)....all possibly just practice for an even more complete AGE OF ILLUSIONISM?

Oh, do I have to go back as far as the ILLUSIONS of the Religious Authorities and the many who have died for religiously-rationalized reasons -- of which we got a replay under born-again Christianist George W. Bush's regime with his "crusade" in the Middle East (which got rapidly spinned into a crusade for secular Democracy!).

We have to start SORTING through what is real and what is manipulation.

Oh, of course, this may be a good spot to acknowledge this attempted ILLUSION: that Scott Olsen was shot with the tear gas cannister to PRESERVE the public safety. Sheesh. And is that also the explanation for why the police shot MORE cannisters at him when people were attempting to HELP the injured Olsen?!

Seems like we ought to reject this Illusionism slight of hand (psyops, perhaps?) and slight of word (propaganda) at some point whatever their sources. I choose to reject it wherever it pops up. Or, possibly, drips down as cloud-seeded precipitation.

Nobody, when you say this loaded-with-fear statement, "...Every type of severe weather that this country sees will become regular events for the next decade" -- I imagine you dressed like a Fortune Teller in a travelling carnival. Meanwhile, the only way I can imagine your statement/prediction being possible is IF the Geoengineers are given our tax dollars to fill our skies with even more tons of dangerous geoengineering polluting substances than they are dumping now (in the name of Science).

US drone raids kill over 120 in 2 days 03 Nov 2011 At least 127 people have been killed in separate US assassination drone strikes in Somalia and Pakistan's northwestern tribal region bordering Afghanistan over the past two days. On Thursday, 41 people were killed and 33 others were injured when the US military launched a assassination drone attack on the outskirts of Hoomboy town, which is situated in Somalia's southern region of the Middle Juba. The aerial attack followed a US assassination strike against Jamame town in Somalia's southern Jubbada Hoose region. At least 28 people were killed and dozens more were wounded.

http://www.legitgov.org/US-drone-raids-kill-over-120-2-days

Submitted by ghettodefender on Thu, 11/03/2011 - 3:47pm.

Submitted by Nobody on Thu, 11/03/2011 - 8:22pm.

"Meet liberated Libya's new Yankee/oil puppet--"

Remember what I just said about non sequiturs?

The oil contracts existed before the revolution in Libya...

The only thing that's changed in respect to the oil is that supporters of Gaddafi, like Russia (whom really hated to see the loss of such a big spending client) have lost their contracts.

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Really? So in order to skirt/avoid defending the lack of civilization (total abandonment of using law, court system, justice -- which even the ancients worked to create and attempt to use to gain the approval of the populace and add legitimacy to their actions) in ridding Africa of JAMAHARIYA and Kadhafi, now we have a new bogeyman to rile about -- Russia, is it?

You need to pick up a copy of the Screenwriter's Bible, Nobody. I'm sure that may be helpful in deciphering the propaganda presentation here....and the possibility that the manipulators need to fashion SUB-PLOTS and CLIFFHANGERS to keep the public engaged in the necessity for PERPETUAL WAR/CONFLICT.

Do you REALLY want to destroy more of AFRICA just because parties other than the U.S.-European Transnationals have "contracts" with African nations? If not, what is your reason for dropping the "OOOOOOOOooooooo, there were contracts with Russia" fear-mongering retort? Sheesh. Talk about a non sequitur! You just mention "Russia", and like a knee jerk, you infer that that's supposed to mean all is not well. Are you that afraid? Methinks you, Nobody, may be the actual King of the Non Sequitur.

If you can't unplug from the scripts of the manipulators long enough to assist in doing some sorting out of their shenanigans, or don't want to question any of the precious propaganda you want to preserve (like saturation bombing was for the Libyan people's own good because Kadhafi was a bad man!), is it okay if others can at least keep an open mind and, as much as possible, think beyond the limits of the Judith-Miller-Style-Readymade-REASONS?

And how's that ethnic cleansing in Libya working for you, Nobody? Or is it easier for you to be an echo chamber for the perpetual conflict fearmongering and pull a train alarm stop about Russian contracts? Sheesh.

See it here--

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/10/30/the-greate...

[excerpt]

"THE GREATER GOOD looks behind the fear, hype and politics that have polarized the vaccine debate in America today.

The film re-frames the emotionally charged issue and offers, for the first time, the opportunity for a rational and scientific discussion on how to create a safer and more effective vaccine program."

This film recently received the 2nd annual "Koroni Award for a documentary feature addressing an issue of importance to public health" at the Sidewalk Film Festival.

It also received the Cinematic Vision Award at the 2011 Amsterdam Film Festival.

From my point of view, this film couldn't be more timely and if you have any interest in the vaccine controversy is a must see.

...

[more at link]

Getting harder to find soldiers fit for duty? (Is not approving of phony perpetual war part of failing the fitness standards?) (It would be interesting to find out what portion of the Pentagon Black Budget is spent on robotics research and development; and how often the Power Elite call up and say, "Hurry up with the robotic soldiers; we don't want to rely on thinking individual humans for our purposes and protection anymore.")

http://www.usatoday.com/news/military/story/2011-11-03/army-unfit-for-co...

[excerpt]

Nearly 90,000 soldiers are either unfit for combat with health restrictions or are otherwise unavailable for combat, according to data released to USA TODAY.

"The problem of a growing population of not-medically-ready soldiers has begun to erode the readiness of the Army," the service's surgeon general, Lt. Gen. Eric Schoomaker, recently said at a military conference in Washington, D.C.

...

[more at link]

been arrested yet? Are they really 'anarchists' as the radio news describes them? (I consider them agents provocateur because I have seen no analysis to prove that these aggressive types hiding behind masks are an openly political entity communicating with the community-at-large and making their views and goals generally understood.)

I'd like to know if even one has been arrested. I don't watch any network news, so maybe somebody saw something I missed.

If the police have been too busy arresting non-violent protesters and aiming their projectiles at veterans for justice/peace, why is that? Why aren't they saving their police manpower for the violent ones dressed in black costumes and masks?

I keep thinking of the meeting of the G8/20/whatever where people said the black clad masked meanies whose main intent was to bait TV cameras and vandalize for the cameras appeared to be wearing police-issue footwear and never seemed to get arrested. What's that about?

Why are the lowkey types sleeping in the park the ones that get pushed around and rounded up, while the black-clad masked men come and go and do as they please and there are never any mass arrests that amount to anything like finding out how they how to dress like that and where to get together?? Seems suspicious to me how they always do just enough damage to make the protest events look nasty and then get away.

Has nothing changed since this article?--

http://www.infowars.com/peaceful-protesters-attacked-arrested-while-cop-...

My concerns are not shared by the writer of this analysis of Oakland's recent events--

http://dissidentvoice.org/2011/11/good-guys-and-bad-guys-in-oakland/

Rats. Which reminds me I have to defrost some frozen broccoli for ze Rats( with other 'stuff' of course.

I HAVE A SAM SEDER SPOTTING (next post).

HE IS BRILLIANT AND GRAND MSNBC IS USING HIM. UP has to be one of my favorite shows! ;)

Leave it to you to remind one of Great
Women! ;)

"Look, Nobody, if they can proudly boil outerspace, why the heck do you maintain the Authorities and Disaster Capitalists are not capable of purposely (or even accidently) causing climate fluctuations(?)"

The amount of vacuum being "boiled" is smaller than a dime for a matter of milliseconds.

Why is it that you lump scientists into the category of "Authorities and Disaster Capitalists"? Is it simply that you wish to put everything that you don't understand and fear into the same simple box?

There has been people very much like you at various points in history, usually saying something to the effect of "burn the witch".

"-- especially by means of dumping TONS of aerosoles (whether as cloud seeding or claimed as a sun reflector) into the atmosphere?"

Like the CO2 produced from coal and gas fired eletrical generators and automobiles? Ya know, that 19th century technology that you wish to absolve yourself of responsibility for using by pointing the blame away from your own habits...

"Weather modification is so usual a practice now that the geoengineering perpetrators are rolling out the programs to present for government funding; how odd that all the bad weather now makes "necessary" a new money$tream to be paid for by The Public to be "applied" to "stop" climate change via geoengineering technology. What a COINCIDENCE! I think not."

The operative phrase from that diatribe is "I think not".

Since climate change began in the 19th century, concurrent with the industrial age, are you suggesting that this plot goes back more than a century?

Would it seem as suspicious if someone suddenly realized that their house was going to burn down that they started thinking about ways to put that fire out?

What you're not understanding here is that this isn't just a little "bad weather". What we're talking about is a term I doubt you've heard in a while, "run away global warming".

It's not complicated, it's not wizardry, it is however more dangerous than you seem to be able to imagine.

When the CO2 concentration in the atmopshere gets high enough the process becomes self sustaining and even if all human activity ceases it will continue to warm.

We're not talking about a few degrees warmer, we're talking about an end point were the ambient temperature is around 300 degrees fahrenheit. Now sure, after a billion years or so the extremophiles able to survive those temperatures will have fixed the carbon and the planet will begin to cool again but calling that a little "bad weather" is like calling a stroll through hell a the first blush of spring.

"(Saving the world by shooting a nuclear missile into outerspace only works in a movie script. But what is fooling the people but coming up with scenarios/MovieScripts that will 'sell'/convince/fool?)""

You're only fooling yourself into believing that it's not happening and it's not as dangerous as people say.

To initiate thermonuclear winter, which is survivable by approximately 2$ of the population isn't much of a profit motive and it's not done by blowing off nukes in space.

What's you're thinking about is that nukes as they are used in the movies to blow up incoming asteroids, well that won't actually work.

However, using those same nukes to launch a lot of dirt and stuff into the atmopshere to block out the sun, would actually work.

Problem is that 98% casualty rate...

It isn't profit that drives people to think about these things...it's fear and fear that's grounded in harsh reality.

"If this weird weather situation is hard to get our minds around, could that be because a significant portion of what is going on is merely a script-like SCENARIO? Could it be possible that the scenario exists as a result of some portion of climate change being only a geoengineered hoax (a hoax that consistently also would make considerable profits for casino-style investment gamblers and insurance schemers who bet that crops fail or succeed, bet that the need for certain products will go up or down (depending on whether or not an area is flooded or goes without electricity, etc.?)."

Or what's even more likely is that it's your own limits that make it so difficult for you to wrap your mind around it.

CO2 traps heat in the atmoshpere, that's physically provable because of the angle at which it diffracts light. Human beings emit billions of tons more of CO2 into the atmosphere than the natural systems can cope with.

Profit has been made on every bit of CO2 released into the atmopshere. On every gallon of gas, on every watt of electricity used to create every product. On ever moment of suicidal consumerism that you've engaged in.

The droughts, dust storms, violent weather of all types, those aren't hoaxes and the people that died and will die are quite real. You may think yourself immune from it. You might think that the collective actions of 7 billion people have no effect whatsoever. You may wish to believe that someone is just trying to trick you but there were people that refused to leave the Titanic that thought the exact same way.

People deny reality when the truth becomes too painful for them, when they fear their own guilt, their own culpability, their own powerlessness. It's simply easier to believe in dark mysterious forces than admit to our own failings, to admit to the inevitable.

You sound an awful lot like an alchoholic blaming the vomit on your carpet on a plot by near beer distributors...You really don't have a problem after all.

"If they sold The People on the Twin Towers and Bulding 7 falling into their footprints from fire, they must feel that they can sell people on the illusion that EVERY DOLLAR of their Disaster Profiteering profits was based in reality, too!"

Ya, except that to stop global warming there isn't a profit to be had but a loss of existing profits selling people useless crap.

The oil, gas, coal and chemical corporations would lose trillions of dollars in profits, not to mention all the corporations that depend on consumerism.

Sure people have been trying to sell the idea that you can make money on other things besides those things that are killing us but frankly the corporate dipshits aren't going to walk away from a known and easy profit when it's cheaper to get people to believe that climate change isn't real.

You're worried about being fooled...you already have been and you've been fooled by those openly making so much money on the collective stupidty of the human race that I'm not surprised if they look upon us with some derision.

How can you ignore the profit motives of the oil, gas, coal and chemical corporations so easily?

"No longer do we live in just the Madison Avenue Consumer/Advertising Age that convinced us that we needed tons of plastic crap even when we never 'needed' it. We now live in the Madison Avenue Consumer/Advertising/ILLUSION Age that can sell us all manner of illusions -- like the illusion that our country is crawling with fellow Americans who are terrorists and for this reason we must PERMANENTLY SURRENDER OUR CIVIL RIGHTS and protections and allow even our children to be dangerously x-rayed and to be publicly groped."

Interesting to watch your mind wander like this...

It's also funny to hear you proclaim that the end of advertising and illusion in the same post that you defend the biggest lie told to the world in a couple thousand years.

It's not funny any longer when you try to muddy the facts by attempting to pull the heart strings of any that might read your contradictory blathering as if it weren't already bad enough that anyone reading your posts doesn't get stupider but you need to make them crazy too.

"Come to think of it, many of the key points in our own history are a result of other illusions and propaganda -- can you pronounce: Sinking of the Main (Spanish American War), Gulf of Tonkin (Vietnam War), Bay of Pigs (faked civil war scheme in Cuba which failed), Edward Bernays' propaganda for the United Fruit Company (one of a long string of successful destabilizations of Central and South American nations)....all possibly just practice for an even more complete AGE OF ILLUSIONISM?"

And with every successful lie there needs to be some small truth. It's a technique that you use as old as the spoken word if not older.

You're trying to sell the lie that climate change isn't real by surrounding it with truths like profit motive and previous propaganda campaigns. All the while ignoring the profit motives of those that make monstrous profits from this lie and conduct their own propaganda campaigns of which you yourself engage in voluntarily.

Much like you did when you proclaimed that ithe revolution in Libya was all a US plot to secure the oil and to sell weapons when all along the people that were saying this were trying to secure the oil and sell weapons.

You always proclaim yourself to be one of the good guys and time always proves you to be on the other side.

"Oh, do I have to go back as far as the ILLUSIONS of the Religious Authorities and the many who have died for religiously-rationalized reasons -- of which we got a replay under born-again Christianist George W. Bush's regime with his "crusade" in the Middle East (which got rapidly spinned into a crusade for secular Democracy!).

We have to start SORTING through what is real and what is manipulation."

If you had a clue as to what was real or what was manipulation I'm afraid that you might implode from the shame of the horseshit that you've posted on this blog over the years.

I told you straight up that the shit you were posting on Libya was sourced with the Russians who were seeking their own profits and you ignored it.

I tell you straight up that the climate denial crap is sourced by the oil, gas, coal and chemical industries and of course you will ignore that as well.

On another note though, isn't it kind of strange for you to attack "religiosly-rationalized" reasons and then attack "secular democracy" in the same paragraph?

You do realize that it's religious rationalization that's anti secular democracy right? Dominionism or whatever it's called now.

Funny how the Dominionists don't believe in climate change either and the ones that do think that it's gods plan to create hell on earth.

They're very anti scientist...

Dominionism

Dominionism is a term used to describe the tendency among some politically active conservative Christians to seek influence or control over secular civil government through political action, especially in the United States, with the goal of either a nation governed by Christians, or a nation governed by a conservative Christian understanding of biblical law.

The use and application of this terminology is controversial. Apart from a handful of social scientists who first coined it, the term is almost exclusively used by journalists and bloggers,[1] and "there’s a lively debate about whether the term is even useful at all."[2]

"Oh, of course, this may be a good spot to acknowledge this attempted ILLUSION: that Scott Olsen was shot with the tear gas cannister to PRESERVE the public safety. Sheesh. And is that also the explanation for why the police shot MORE cannisters at him when people were attempting to HELP the injured Olsen?!"

See here how you attempt to pull the heart strings again as if this was somehow connected to the original topic of climate change.

This tenchique can also be described as "in for a penny, in for a pound", that is to say, if you agree with this small truth then the rest of what you've said must also be accepted as the truth.

Could you be more deceptive or dishonest in your attempt to coopt the feelings for Scott Olsen and then try and turn them towards your own agenda of climate denial and the creation of hell on earth?

"Seems like we ought to reject this Illusionism slight of hand (psyops, perhaps?) and slight of word (propaganda) at some point whatever their sources. I choose to reject it wherever it pops up. Or, possibly, drips down as cloud-seeded precipitation."

No you don't. You buy it hook line and sinker every time. In fact, you're so steeped in falsehood and denial of reality that it wouldn't be a poor bet at all to say that you've lost touch with it entirely.

"Nobody, when you say this loaded-with-fear statement, "...Every type of severe weather that this country sees will become regular events for the next decade" -- I imagine you dressed like a Fortune Teller in a travelling carnival. Meanwhile, the only way I can imagine your statement/prediction being possible is IF the Geoengineers are given our tax dollars to fill our skies with even more tons of dangerous geoengineering polluting substances than they are dumping now (in the name of Science)."

That's the funny thing about prediction, it doesn't require any magic at all. I can light a candle and predict that it will become a mere stub. I can pour myself coffee for the third time and predict that the coffee pot will soon be empty.

What's not funny is how many times I'm actually correct. This blog has been a running record of those predictions for a number of years now, that's been available for anyone to go back over and show where I was wrong.

You're welcome to take a shot at it. The only one that's been successful at it in abotu a decade got me on semantics (that alone was no simple feat...lol).

What makes my prediction possible has nothing to do with geoengineering but the understanding of physics and observation of reality.

Warmer air holds more water. FACT.
The air is warmer than it used to be. FACT.
All except one winter in the past 100 yrs that's followed a la nina event as been colder and wetter in the north and drier in the south. FACT.
The Pacific Ocean has a 40 year thermal cycle and is now on a cooling trend. FACT.

And before you think about claiming that as evidence that global warming isn't real, it's a relative temperature to other bodies of water and more concerns the direction of ocean currents.

Ask a plumber to demonstrate how fluids flow towards heat if you need a simple, real world example.

While you're immagining me in that fortune tellers garb...ask yourself why no one and I mean no one that knows me ever bets against me.

It's not magic, I'm not a wizard, I'm just smarter than you are.

"Really? So in order to skirt/avoid defending the lack of civilization (total abandonment of using law, court system, justice -- which even the ancients worked to create and attempt to use to gain the approval of the populace and add legitimacy to their actions) in ridding Africa of JAMAHARIYA and Kadhafi, now we have a new bogeyman to rile about -- Russia, is it?"

That's where the source of your propaganda was coming from.

Do note of course that the guy that actually killed Gaddafi will be standing trial for doing so even though he was part of that revolution.

"You need to pick up a copy of the Screenwriter's Bible, Nobody. I'm sure that may be helpful in deciphering the propaganda presentation here....and the possibility that the manipulators need to fashion SUB-PLOTS and CLIFFHANGERS to keep the public engaged in the necessity for PERPETUAL WAR/CONFLICT."

I told you about your sources motives BEFORE it came out that the Russian right wing had interest in the oil and weapons contracts with Gaddafi.

"Do you REALLY want to destroy more of AFRICA just because parties other than the U.S.-European Transnationals have "contracts" with African nations? If not, what is your reason for dropping the "OOOOOOOOooooooo, there were contracts with Russia" fear-mongering retort? Sheesh. Talk about a non sequitur! You just mention "Russia", and like a knee jerk, you infer that that's supposed to mean all is not well. Are you that afraid? Methinks you, Nobody, may be the actual King of the Non Sequitur."

Funny but Libya doesn't seem to think that it was destroyed by the loss of Gaddafi. The only ones that seem to be pissed off about it are those that had oil and weapons contracts with him....well and you.

"If you can't unplug from the scripts of the manipulators long enough to assist in doing some sorting out of their shenanigans, or don't want to question any of the precious propaganda you want to preserve (like saturation bombing was for the Libyan people's own good because Kadhafi was a bad man!), is it okay if others can at least keep an open mind and, as much as possible, think beyond the limits of the Judith-Miller-Style-Readymade-REASONS? "

Except that, it didn't happen like you think. I mean you could easily show proof of this "saturation bombing" if it had actually happened right?

"And how's that ethnic cleansing in Libya working for you, Nobody? Or is it easier for you to be an echo chamber for the perpetual conflict fearmongering and pull a train alarm stop about Russian contracts? Sheesh."

I'm not really fond of the idea that some racists are taking advantage of the chaos, no but to try and cover your tracks with their actions is just wrong.

You need to stop being wrong.

"If the police have been too busy arresting non-violent protesters and aiming their projectiles at veterans for justice/peace, why is that? Why aren't they saving their police manpower for the violent ones dressed in black costumes and masks?"

So who's afraid of an Anonymous Anarchist now?

{I was suppose to be asleep, but got myself "worked up". ;}

Harry Potter 5 day weekend begins on next Wednesday. :)

Gosh your posts, Nobody & Nora, I look forward to reading.

Floating Islands e-questions and e-conversation to follow in next post if alright with you and your timings Nobody.
;)

;)

First there are many different prototypes. Dubai's Islands, although now sinking, lasted for years.

Is it solely due to funds we do not utilize that technology?

Tea Cheers. I have been on other sites and this one. I think I am going to try to sleep a bit... {as my eyes blur} ... {...maybe, maybe not ;}

Well first off, those islands aren't actually "floating".

They're otherwise known as the Palm Islands and it's not so much that they're sinking, it's that oceans are rising.

A similiar situation exists in the Maldives...

But yes the primary problem is cash...The technology isn't any different than the dikes and levies in this country...the problem is that the "floating islands" cost about $600 million per mile...If you wanted to figure out how much that would be for the US coastline you'd have to multiply by 12,383 miles...

That comes out to $7,429,800,000,000 or $7.5 trillion...Now multiply that by the coastlines of the rest of the planet...

And even so, as Japan, the Dutch and Lousiana have learned...when the water wants in, it get's in.

Not to mention that these kind of projects spend a lot of oil and spew a lot of carbon which just makes the problem worse.

By Serge Halimi

Source: Le Monde DiplomatiqueSaturday, November 05, 2011

The Occupy Wall Street protests in the US are also directed against the Street’s representatives in the Democratic Party and the White House. The protesters probably don’t know that Socialists in France still consider Barack Obama exemplary, since, unlike President Sarkozy, he had the foresight to take action against banks. Is there a misunderstanding? Those who are unwilling or unable to attack the pillars of the neoliberal order (financialisation, globalisation of movements of capital and goods) are tempted to personalise the disaster, to attribute the crisis in capitalism to poor planning or mismanagement by their political opponents. In France it’s Sarkozy, in Italy Berlusconi, in Germany Merkel, who are to blame. And elsewhere?

Elsewhere, and not only in the US, political leaders long considered as models by the moderate left also face angry crowds. In Greece, the president of the Socialist International, George Papandreou, is pursuing a policy of extreme austerity: privatisations, cuts in the civil service, and delivering economic and social sovereignty to a ultra-neoliberal “troika” (1). The conduct of the Spanish, Portuguese and Slovenian governments reminds us that the term “left” is now so debased that it is no longer associated with any specific political content.

The current French Socialist Party spokesman explains the impossible situation of European social democracy very clearly: in his new book Tourner la page, Benoît Hamon writes: “In the European Union, the European Socialist Party is historically associated, through the compromise linking it with Christian democracy, with the strategy of liberalising the internal market and the implications for social rights and public services. Socialist governments negotiated the austerity measures that the European Union and the International Monetary Fund wanted. In Spain, Portugal and Greece, opposition to the austerity measures is naturally directed against the IMF and the European Commission, but also against the socialist governments … Part of the European left no longer denies that it is necessary, like the European right, to sacrifice the welfare state in order to balance the budget and please the markets. … We have blocked the march of progress in several parts of the world. I cannot resign myself to this”
http://www.zcommunications.org/where-did-the-left-go-by-serge-halimi

http://www.peterwerbe.com/ontheair.html

After the successful national day of action and general strike in Oakland, naturally, we see the topic of violence and non-violence growing within our movement and within the voices of corporate media networks. Obviously this is a result of certain actions that individuals and groups within the movement decided to partake in. Unfortunately we are hearing a great deal of slander, and nonsense at the forefront of this discussion. As someone who has been with the occupation as much as possible, I feel it's necessary to confront this.

Isolating people based on their willingness to engage in self-defense by actively protecting the spaces we’ve all worked so hard to build together, and the symbolic defiance of exploitative property by making absurd claims of them being “Outside agitators” as if it they are some how separate from the many people who have been actively involved in building these spaces of 'direct-democracy' and communal living should not only be considered an attack on solidarity, but an attack on movements of the people. What divides movements of the people, weakens movements of the people.

Many of us out there today and tonight were Anarchists, but many were also not. We are the ones who were in the streets, ready to provide support & solidarity with all of our brothers and sisters. We were ready to brave against the violence of the state arm and arm with you, to protect one another, and provide medic support to anyone who fell victim to the police assaults. We are the ones whom also involved themselves with serving food to the commune, providing sanitation, organizing actions and broadening the movement. We are not separate from the movement. We are not outside agitators. We are a part of the movement, we are involved with the struggle. We stood with the occupation before day one, we stood with the occupation tonight and will continue to do the same in the future. Don’t let age old divide and conquer tactics convince you otherwise, please...
http://news.infoshop.org/article.php?story=2011110401291

In A Structured Anarchism, John Griffin argues that an anarchist communist society, while a desirable goal in the distant future, is not practical in the short-term. This is because 1) people accustomed to a capitalist society aren't culturally prepared for it, and 2) the modern economy is too complicated to organize without the "self-regulation" of a market system. Therefore Griffin calls for a series of short term compromises to be made with classical liberal economics, and dubs this "collectivist anarchism."

Griffin, unfortunately, doesn't understand collectivism nor economics in general. He manages to garble and lump together the views of Proudhon, Bakunin, and Malatesta. Bakunin was the only collectivist of the three. Proudhon was a mutualist and Malatesta, an anarchist communist. Besides mistakenly lumping them all as "collectivists," Griffin makes an even bigger error by equating collectivism with "market anarchism." Collectivism, however, was not based on a market economy, but on a federally coordinated system of "honest exchange" of products at their labor cost. In a market system the prices of products are determined according to their relative scarcity (ie. the "law of supply and demand"). These are not the same thing. Time and again, whether on the issue of markets or money, Griffin proves he is in no position to lecture other anarchists about their shaky grasp of economics. For instance, on page 22 he writes, "The extraction of large amounts of unearned income by the capitalists is a source of inflation, since too much money is generated to buy the available goods, thus encouraging price rises. Any inflation in a collectivist [sic] economy will not be aggravated by this spurious money growth, since those who operate it are remunerated only for work done."

The extraction of value by the capitalist out of the workers' gross product has nothing whatsoever to do with the money supply, since the capitalist does not print his/her own money. (In effect, Griffin is saying that a robber creates money when he steals your purse.) If what Griffin was saying were true, the history of capitalism would be one long inflationary spiral, without periodic economic depressions. On the contrary, capitalism, if not interfered with by the state, tends towards economic depressions (which cause deflation), since its constant drive to reduce workers to low wages and unemployment has a depressive effect.
http://www.syndicalist.org/theory/market_anarchism.shtml

Anarcho=Syndicalist Review (ASR) is a forum for non-sectarian, critical, informed and constructive discussion of anarcho-syndicalist theory and practice. We are not affiliated with, sponsored by, or the mouth-piece of any organization. Our outlook is internationalist. We stand in solidarity with working people everywhere, and in particular with those who, rejecting both state capitalism and state socialism as proven threats to the health of people and planet alike, seek peace and justice for themselves and their fellow workers through international labor solidarity. This is our official website.
http://www.syndicalist.org/

WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange
Thursday, November 03 2011

PEOPLE should embrace the sort of anarchism typified by WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, Noam Chomsky says. The American commentator, philosopher and activist was being interviewed in front of a packed theatre at the Sydney Opera House today when he was asked his thoughts on Prime Minister Julia Gillard's comments that WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange's motivations were "sort of anarchic".

Anarchy rules OK Chomsky tells Australia

AAP

November 3, 2011

PEOPLE should embrace the sort of anarchism typified by WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, Noam Chomsky says.

The American commentator, philosopher and activist was being interviewed in front of a packed theatre at the Sydney Opera House today when he was asked his thoughts on Prime Minister Julia Gillard's comments that WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange's motivations were "sort of anarchic".

Professor Chomsky said if anarchy meant questioning authority and demanding the truth, then everyone should be anarchic.

"In that sense I think everyone should be an anarchist," he said, in response to heavy applause from the audience.

Anarchism should not be viewed in a negative light, Prof Chomsky said.

"It's not the conception of anarchism as people running wild and breaking windows.

"In our age we have to overcome the barriers introduced by the ranks of capitalism and corporate capitalism and I think there is some sense in that, at the core of the anarchist tradition ... is to ask and raise questions about authority, hierarchy and domination.

"And if it cannot justify itself, then it should be dismantled. That's the core principle of anarchism."

His comments came after Britain's High Court in London upheld a ruling that Assange should be sent to face questioning by Swedish authorities over claims of sexual assault against two women.

Prof Chomsky is to receive the 2012 Sydney Peace Prize at a ceremony later this evening.

http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/anarchy-rules-ok-chomsky-tells-aust...

"regulators can be bought" and "syndicate" is an analogue for "corporation".

Have fun with it.

I dunno maybe you can invent a game that humans can't cheat at but I really doubt it.

I agree.

" PEOPLE should embrace the sort of anarchism typified by WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, Noam Chomsky says. "

I know the many types of "false islands", especially the newer ones.

All I am asking is WHY AREN'T WE USING that Technology to SAVE THE POLAR BEARS?

SINCE IT IS * HUMANS * FAULT ~ WE SHOULD SAVE THE POLAR BEARS!!!

I am speaking to many and checking my argument with The Best Informed {kinda} Agitator Here before I speak with others... ... .

"regulators can be bought" and "syndicate" is an analogue for "corporation".

Syndicate also means union. The union movement. Workers organized to take power. What are you trying to say?

;)

Oyf Eybik Yung!

"SINCE IT IS * HUMANS * FAULT ~ WE SHOULD SAVE THE POLAR BEARS!!!"

There's a plan to use floating platforms for the polar bears...problem is they don't survive the climate and deep water is a much different problem than shallow.

but I saw a newer technology/ideology off of the OIL Islands but I lost info when computer turned off when fell asleep on desk :D {oops ;}...

The info was written off a science article ... but I cannot find EXACT article.
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"Syndicate also means union. The union movement. Workers organized to take power. What are you trying to say?"

The question would be more accurate if you asked what I was trying to get you to say and I was expecting an angrier response. Your question was disarming but I'll answer...

...and "union" is also synonymous with corporation...and our country is described as a union, or you could call it a syndicate, or a corporation...doesn't matter...

What I'm trying to say, what I've been saying to you for quite some time is that nothing is solved by just changing labels. Chomsky in particular, being the linguist that he is, plays some very intricate semantic games.

There has yet to be designed an economic or political system that works for everyone...Even the democratic principle, by trying to accomodate the most people merely finds the lowest common denominator.

I'd like to see that system designed or at least an additional mechanism introduced to the current system to rebalance it but that can't happen if conversation doesn't occur and conversation doesn't occur when everyone thinks that they have the one single answer to it all.

The very fact that anyone would disagree with your solution is exactly the proof that it won't ever come to pass or work if it does.

What kind of economic system do you suppose occurs naturally when individuals, not collectives of any sort, but 'individuals' are able to manufacture all of their own goods?

Or what about the economy where people don't make things but robots do, which will come before that, where would the jobs come from? What kind of work will it be?

These are technological inevitabilities...

In fact that last one is already upon us and we're a little late to figuring out what do we do with all the idle people and how do they survive.

Perhaps this is an area where thought and research would be more productive?

I'll look into it...I need sleep right now though.

;D
Sleep Well Nobody. ;)

What kind of economic system do you suppose occurs naturally when individuals, not collectives of any sort, but 'individuals' are able to manufacture all of their own goods?
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A mass die off. A return to the stone age for a few.

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I will be keeping somewhat current because it is important for The Polar Bear. I have enough information I can complain to "someone" about or write a bloody story about - if no one listens. ;) ...but if you are called to find out further, thank you, thank you, thank you.

suggestions for The Polar Bear? But know I am as a Foster Mamma BEAR and pro their "voice"! ;)

;)

The Donkey Song: I'm So Alone. So Alone. NoBody here beside me.

Hope y'all got a chance to view Sunday's BTV over there --------->
Been crazy busy here and hope all is well with you. We highlighted an item by DAN BICE at JSONLINE.com that accuses Cain of money-laundering campaign ca$h IN DIRECT VIOLATION of federal election fund-raising laws (link below). And I've not heard ONE PEEP from Corporomedia on this! Sam and Pap glossed right over it in their Ring-of-Fire news run-down. But THAT'S IT that I've heard mention about this!

I dunno about you but I'm sickntired of the Cain-groping story. The allegations are surely damning esp from the woman who came out today telling all. And there's NO DOUBT our society has SERIOUS ISSUES about abusing women not to mention the WAGE DISPARITY and continuous right-wing attack on women's bodily sovereignty, all of which has been ignored by the corporomedia.

So I penned this missive to NPR All Things Considered

NPR like the rest of the Beltway Bubala Herd has covered Herman Cain's decade-old sexual encounters allegations with rapt detail for over a week now. And I'm not discounting that sexual harassment is a problem in our society at large, especially for a person who vies to be "Leader of the Free World" (another topic for another time). But I hope NPR has finally got the Cain titillation issue out of its collective system. Why? Because there may be ILLEGAL operations by Cain and his "supporters" in VIOLATING FEDERAL CAMPAIGN LAWS. Why hasn't NPR turned the page on the Cain "sexploitation" allegations when there is a REAL RECENT smoking gun of Cain and his cohorts possibly blatantly LAUNDERING CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS?
Here's a lead you might want to take up:
"State firm's cash to Herman Cain may breach federal campaign, tax laws" by Daniel Bice at his NO QUARTER blog on the Milwaukee Sentinel Journal jsonline.com from Oct 30 2011, over a week ago.
I have not heard ONE WORD about this on Morning Edition or ATC whenever the name HERMAN CAIN came across the radio.

I'll tell ya what: Every NPR reporter/producer throws in $1 to The Hat if they want to investigate this report by Dan Bice.
IF an NPR investigative reporter gets this story ON NPR AIR s/he wins The Hat!
AND I will MATCH The Hat in a donation to NPR and the same amount to my local affiliate WCPN 90.3FM
I'll ADD The Hat as a donation to WUWM 89.7FM - Milwaukee Public Media if the winner gets Dan Bice in an on-air interview.

If the Federal Elections Commission investigates AND PROSECUTES this alleged money-laundering scheme in part from NPR (and Dan Bice) shining the light on it then ALL can take credit for helping protect our democracy from blatant illegal money influence in U.S. elections.

IF NO ONE at NPR puts ANY money into The Hat and Dan Bice's allegations are not vetted by the crack NPR staff ON-AIR then we'll all know who butters their bread by the NPR silence on this topic.

-filthy rich

ps send me an email with The Hat amount should you take up this pledge

pps please use my nom de plume so i don't lose my job thx

Keep yer ears tuned to ATC and Morning Edition to see if this onion gets peeled.

"A mass die off. A return to the stone age for a few."

Not exactly, once everyone has the capability of producing their own goods, a mass die off or a return to the stone age would be pretty much out of the question...It would effectively be an anarchist economy or a free market, depending on your semantics.

The problem does come up during the transitional phase though...and we're in that transitional phase right now.

We're at the point where a handful of people can run a factory that used to employ thousands...Consider that "employee" and "customer" are synonyms and you can see that capitalism is quickly burning itself out and devaluing it's own capital by the very accumulation of that capital.

Except for basic human needs, demand for real goods will remain lower than our production capability for as far as the eye can see, with all new demand going towards virtual goods and services.

Sam was right when he said that the basics; food, shelter, health care, education should be government guaranteed...

But politics is locked up by those that fear a 'jobless' society and corporations are locked into a short term profit capital consumption cycle, so neither of the traditional power bases will step in to cover this gap and there is a real danger of that mass die off because of it.

So how do those outside of politics or business provide the basics and avert the mass die off?

"Nobody, how do you feel about using "fake islands" and any suggestions for The Polar Bear? But know I am as a Foster Mamma BEAR and pro their "voice"! ;)"

This is where the story get's sad...

They tried to put in floating rafts for the polar bears but it failed...the ice comes in during the winter and crushes them.

Artificial islands like in Dubai won't work, not just because of the expense but also because of the depth of the water.

About the only thing that's going to save the polar bears at this point are zoos and storing of genetic material for future reintroduction.

Then again...Global warming can also trigger rapid cooling...

Why can't they work? ... I am not speaking of costs YET, but it is "OUR/WTP" fault. TIRED OF THE ZOO MENTALITY. Kinda Worked For American Condors (I saw the last one FLY)- except AC9 was the last one flying, to never BY HUMAN HAND ~ To Fly Again, except in a STUPID WEE Bloody ZOO Space! ;)
Illogical ... Does Not Compute.

"Nobody, but what of fake islands being anchored as an oil "rig"?"

Winter ice crushes them. Nothing man made can withstand those kinds of forces for long. I said it was a sad story.

I understand how you feel about zoos but more creatures would be extinct without them and fewer people would care for them at all if they never saw them up close.

With the climate changing so rapidly we're looking at the loss of tens of thousands of species of plants and animals.

The only way to save a lot of them are to save their dna so that they can be cloned later.

I'm sorry.

Plant a tree.

analogy Nobody. {I thought "song" with Nobody cute.} :):(

Sorry Nobody I do not understand. :):( There are oil "rigs" in Alaska & SHIPS that withstand the "crushing" Ice.
;)

"There are oil "rigs" in Alaska & SHIPS that withstand the "crushing" Ice."

Icebreaker ships need to keep moving or they'll be crushed...they break the ice by actually riding on top of it.

Oil rigs cost from 100 - 600 million to build...

A young polar bear can only swim a couple of miles...placing something comparable to an oil rig every couple of miles in an area of hundreds of thousands of square miles...

;) Thank You.

ya...depressing as the answer is, you're welcome.

If you've got a couple billion just laying around though...the answer would be different.

Regarding the Babies, "a few islands are better than none."

Again with no heed ATT to expense.

Making an anchored-floating oil "rig" or whatever should not be that difficult. They have oil "rigs" in the Arctic.

"Regarding the Babies, "a few islands are better than none.""

Some bears shelter on land in the summer...

The amount of area you'd have to cover is about the size of Russia, the water is about a mile deep and the currents are very strong...

On the scale of things, that's like setting a dozen human babies at one end of a foot ball field and a bottle of milk at the other end and saying "it's better than nothing"...It really isn't.

Remember that a polar bear can hit 1600 lbs so the platforms would have to be quite large, about the size of a barge...They would also have to be self powered...self positioning to be able to maintain position unanchored...and you'd have to do all of this without adding to global warming.

Like I said...if you've a couple billion laying around the answers are a lot different...before you start talking that kind of scale though, there is nothing but heartbreak to be found here.

technology ~ but with the oil--rig type technology. {Not the recycled plastic either, except in making the "faux wilderness", perhaps. ;}

There are many out there ...something could "move" {or be "brewed". ;}

I could also call further for this to be a "religious issue" ~ or just write a "story". ;)

"Making an anchored-floating oil "rig" or whatever should not be that difficult. They have oil "rigs" in the Arctic.

At the cost of 600 million dollars each and the northern most one is only as far north as the Berentz sea.

A 50 ft unpowered barge can be as low as 10 grand each...add batteries, motors, self positioning computors and you could get 1 floating platform able to handle polar bears for about 100k each...and then to make them durable enough that they can handle the weather, curious bears etc., while at the same time keeping them from becoming navigational hazards, that's double that...and then to leave them unmanned at a quarter million dollars each in the open ocean where people might just tow them off...

If you go the super cheap route you could probably anchor them for about 50k each not counting the costs in manpower and diesel required to distribute and retrieve them before ice hits...

Just because I answer quickly doesn't mean that I'm not thorough in my analysis.

;)

"IOW the Billions I think can be raised."

Not according to the World Wildlife Fund...

It's cheaper just to air drop the bears food...they swim looking for food.

That still contributes to global warming but not near as much as criss crossing the ocean anchoring and retrieving barges that the bears can't use to hunt from anyways...

Really, seriously the focus needs to be on climate change and saving the tens of thousands of endangered species not just the cute ones.

If we don't get that under control everything but bacteria and the creatures that live in geothermal vents will be dead anyways.

Excellent! You have the stats. ...and stating prices that are so much less than what I planned. Can I use Nobody in Sederderville/Sam Seders Show Site, as a source? {Credit due.} I don't want to use if precarious. I believe in Anonymous 2!

BTW the "Arctic Isles" can be watched and have a few people checking Polar Bear Isle "stats". ;D More jobs per Arctic Isles. ;}

They are looked upon in an askance manner by many "AR GROUPS". I will check with other Locations of local Polar Bear Groups or start another petition.

Example: We save many stays/ferals but too many are killed, daily. We Ban Together and try to "...change the face of Arrakis." {from Dune} We can stop but "the mindset" &/or prayer is also needed to be "conjured" and shared!

preparing to be a part of my Posts. :(

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405297020450530457700038074061477...

so yes the "Islands" have to constantly be updated & to try different solutions = New Technology.

BTW I ONLY Believe You are thorough ~ even if you speak in a succinct manner, with only "general ideas", as I speak, I believe in the way you believe. I know many that have spoken in similar manners as you. An example of what you said: DNA & Zoos may be only way for future.

... still contemplating because it HAS BEEN & STILL IS OCCURRING.
:(

Natural Medicine Under Attack

Date: 11-08-11
Host: George Noory
Guests: Ty Bollinger, Dr. Michael Farley, Jesse Ventura

Author and health freedom advocate, Ty Bollinger, and naturopathic doctor,Michael Farley, will talk about herbal medicines and surviving the coming pharmaceutical monopoly. They'll explain why harmless herbal products are taken off the market while deadly drugs are still legal, and how the FDA is attacking herbs and vitamins.

First Hour: Former Governor of Minnesota, and host of Conspiracy Theory, Jesse Ventura talks about the dismissal of his TSA lawsuit.

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2011/11/08

-Hi all in Sederville! BTV and Herman Cain!
Submitted by FilthyRich on Tue, 11/08/2011 - 2:34am.-

NPR gets on my nerves at times too and I should take the time because it is only one of three or four stations I receive out here in the sticks...(regular and car radio-wise).

November 9th,1938
1938 Nazis looted and burned synagogues and Jewish-owned stores and houses in Germany and Austria on Kristallnacht, the "night of broken glass."

War Against the Weak is the gripping chronicle documenting how American corporate philanthropies launched a national campaign of ethnic cleansing in the United States, helped found and fund the Nazi eugenics of Hitler and Mengele — and then created the modern movement of "human genetics."

In the first three decades of the 20th Century, American corporate philanthropy combined with prestigious academic fraud to create the pseudoscience eugenics that institutionalized race politics as national policy. The goal: create a superior, white, Nordic race and obliterate the viability of everyone else. How? By identifying so-called "defective" family trees and subjecting them to legislated segregation and sterilization programs. The victims: poor people, brown-haired white people, African Americans, immigrants, Indians, Eastern European Jews, the infirm and really anyone classified outside the superior genetic lines drawn up by American raceologists. The main culprits were the Carnegie Institution, the Rockefeller Foundation and the Harriman railroad fortune, in league with America's most respected scientists hailing from such prestigious universities as Harvard, Yale and Princeton, operating out of a complex at Cold Spring Harbor on Long Island. The eugenic network worked in tandem with the U.S. Department of Agriculture, the State Department and numerous state governmental bodies and legislatures throughout the country, and even the U.S. Supreme Court. They were all bent on breeding a eugenically superior race, just as agronomists would breed better strains of corn. The plan was to wipe away the reproductive capability of the weak and inferior. Ultimately, 60,000 Americans were coercively sterilized — legally and extra-legally. Many never discovered the truth until decades later. Those who actively supported eugenics include America's most progressive figures: Woodrow Wilson, Margaret Sanger, and Oliver Wendell Holmes who ruled on the infamous Carrie Buck trial and declared "three generations of imbeciles is enough."

American eugenic crusades proliferated into a worldwide campaign, and in the 1920s came to the attention of Adolf Hitler. Under the Nazis, American eugenic principles were applied without restraint, careening out of control into the Reich's infamous genocide. During the pre-War years, American eugenicists openly supported Germany's program. The Rockefeller Foundation financed the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute and the work of its central racial scientists. Once WWII began, Nazi eugenics turned from mass sterilization and euthanasia to genocidal murder. One of the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute doctors in the program financed by the Rockefeller Foundation was Josef Mengele........
http://www.waragainsttheweak.com/

It's funny though...When we go looking for mates what is it that we really select for?

From personal experience what most people think about isn't exactly anything that would actually make 'superior' offspring...lol.

A U.S. official says the State Department is considering a plan that would reroute the proposed Keystone XL oil pipeline from Canada away from environmentally sensitive areas of Nebraska, an action that could delay a final decision on the project until after the 2012 election....
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/feedarticle/9939021

I knew you wanted me.

El-Hajj Malik El-Shabazz

Capitalism has never had a problem with the exploitation of anything-- Kids included:

Joe Paterno and the Sick Logic of College Football
By Dave Zirin

...at the same time I would argue that the connective tissue between benign booster scandals and this monstrous state of affairs are more substantial than people want to admit. It’s connected to the Bowl Championship Series, “conference realignment” and all the ways in which college football has morphed over the last generation into a multi-billion dollar big business. This isn’t about Sandusky. This is about a culture that says the football team must be defended at all costs: a culture where the sexual assault of a 10 year old is reported to Paterno before the police.

This is what happens when a football program becomes the economic and spiritual heartbeat of an entire section of a state...
http://www.edgeofsports.com/2011-11-07-661/index.html#CommentPostForm

David Cay Johnston

....When customers pay their monthly bills they loan money to PG&E at zero interest, which is a lot cheaper than borrowing in the markets. But that is neither capitalism nor market economics.

The market chooses to invest and sets a price for credit. The regulatory and tax systems force captive customers to make interest-free loans to utilities, denying the customers the use of their money for other purposes, including paying down their own debt, which may be at much higher interest rates than the savings from using that money to finance utility projects.

Forcing captive customers to extend interest-free credit to utilities strikes me as a subtle form of legalized theft...
...The trophy for turning the burden of taxes into a benefit goes not to General Electric, whose skillful use of tax law and lobbying for tax breaks is famous, but to Pepco Holdings, which owns the monopoly electric utility in and around the U.S. capital. Pepco’s three-year tax rate? Minus 57.6 percent. GE’s was only minus 45.3 percent...
http://blogs.reuters.com/david-cay-johnston/2011/11/08/you%e2%80%99re-pa...

Western Alaska prepares for massive storm

Villages and towns across Alaska's western and northwest coasts braced Tuesday for a winter megastorm that the National Weather Service says could be among the worst on record.....

Alaskans, especially those living on the coast, are no strangers to brutal winter weather. But the language of the National Weather Service warnings signaled that this week's storm was no ordinary storm.

"This will be (an) extremely dangerous and life-threatening storm of an epic magnitude rarely experienced," read one bulletin. "All people in the area should take precautions to safeguard their lives and property."

The storm is dangerous because seas of 15 to 25 feet could overturn small boats, and widespread blizzard conditions over much of the west coast could strand backcountry travelers, said Bob Fischer, lead forecaster for the Weather Service in Fairbanks.

"I've worked at this office for about 40 year and I haven't seen anything like this," said Fischer, whose office forecasts for the Northwest and Western coasts.

http://www.adn.com/2011/11/08/2161340/western-alaska-coast-residents.htm...

-When we go looking for mates... is it that we really select for?
Submitted by ghettodefender on Wed, 11/09/2011 - 4:05pm.

I knew you wanted me.-

McDonald's Job Applications Dumped On 'Occupy' Protesters By Chicago Board Of Trade
By Harry Bradford
First Posted: 11/5/11 02:37 PM ET Updated: 11/6/11 10:01 AM ET

On top of cold weather and logistical pains, "Occupy" protesters in Chicago last week dealt with an embarrassing stunt.

Dozens of photocopied McDonald's job applications were reportedly thrown from the Chicago Board of Trade building and onto Occupy Chicago protestors earlier this week, according to Chicagoist (h/t Mediaite).
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...Despicable and vile sociopaths.

"I knew you wanted me."

Not really but a sense of humor is kinda sexy...

[wink]

Lol...

http://www.oilrig-photos.com/picture/number1691.asp

No: 1691 Contributor: Robert Broussard Year: 2009 Country: USA
Oooguruk Island

Nabors 19ac Offshore North Slope "Oooguruk Island", Alaska.

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;)

Yes, I read that article also. Bloody Sick!

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/07/27/alaska.bp.liberty/index.html
;)

and the blog rolls on...

love y'all!

The organizers of the spreading Occupy initiative are taking their awareness and moral indignation right to corporate territory—Wall Street, the corporate lobbies in Washington, D.C. and their likes around the nation. The denizens of corporate territory have taken notice, with varying degrees of alarm, hoping that wintry weather will thin out the encampments.

But the corporate plunderers have not changed their behavior, continuing to dominate, outsource labor, deceive, pump the war machine, pollute, demand taxpayers bailouts, and guarantee and provide open checkbooks for the election campaigns of their indentured politicians.

When the long-simmering public sentiment finally cries out for justice, honesty and fairplay, when it begins to produce a rumble for an awakening citizenry, the climate for the next stage of action to overcome corporatism will be upon us. Getting Steamed to Overcome Corporatism is the title of my new book (Common Courage Press). It was prepared before Occupy Wall Street actions, but it’s fortuitously well-timed for turning knowledgeable people with fire in their bellies into an effective sustained movement to counter the corporate supremacists and subordinate them to the sovereignty of the people.

Once you read through the fast-paced pages summarizing about 200 mostly ongoing corporate outrages adversely affecting the “99 percent” and remind yourself how these mega-corporate dominators are stripmining our economic well-being, our political freedoms, our environmental, marketplace and workplace health and safety, and our nation’s peaceful status in the world, you will be ready for collaborative action.

Corporate predators see waste as greater sales, corruption as power, tax escapes and consumer penalties as profit centers, unilateral control as their birthright. Our political economy is out of control.

Polling shows that the American people are increasingly opposed to the privileges and immunities of giant corporations. They are aware that corporations have no allegiance to this country as they roam the world in search of serf labor and partnering oligarchs and dictators.

By three-to-one margins, polls show that people believe these corporate behemoths have too much control over their lives, too much power over government, too much corporate welfare and are too willing to abandon America and take its jobs and industries overseas.

If you believe that these multinational corporations, as artificial entities, should be our servants, not our masters, if you believe that they should not be able to take over the government so as to turn it against its own people imposing avaricious commercial values over civic values, then you may be ready for action.

There are nine major movements of corporate reform described in the book which involves dismantling overly concentrated corporate control as well as shifting power to people in their roles of consumer, worker, taxpayer and voters. The engine comes from one million coordinated citizens who pledge to raise or contribute $100 a year and at least 100 volunteer hours a year to achieve fundamental corporate reforms and initiate self-initiatory powers for the people to serve and protect themselves in their transformed political economy.

People are more likely to pledge such resources if they are convinced that other people are doing so at the same time. So the Steamed book invites activists to make a commitment at one of four levels of initiation. Your pledge (morally, not legally binding) will only be due when you are directly informed to your satisfaction that:

______999 other Americans have signed the same pledge (the pioneers)
______9,999 other Americans have signed the same pledge (the founders)
______99,999 other Americans have signed the same pledge (the drivers)
______999,999 other Americans have signed the same pledge (the critical massers)

You can order your copy of Getting Steamed to Overcome Corporatism by sending a check for $14.95 payable to CSRL.

CSRL
PO Box 19367
Washington, DC 20036

To pledge and/or purchase Getting Steamed to Overcome Corporatism online visit: www.csrl.org/steamed

Higher education is being targeted by conservative politicians and governments because it embodies, at least ideally, a sphere in which students learn that democracy, as Jacques Rancière suggests, entails rupture, relentless critique, and dialogue about official power, its institutions, and its never-ending attempts to silent dissent.[7]
[7]. Jacques Rancière, Hatred of Democracy (London: Verso 2006).

Jerry Sandusky and Joe Paterno, registered Republicans
http://www.salon.com/2011/11/09/jerry_sandusky_and_joe_paterno_registere...

Grand Jury Report on Jerry Sandusky
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2011/11/06/sports/ncaafootball/201111...

As Penn State students riot for Joe Paterno, others ask 'why?'
...Law enforcement officers used pepper spray on some of the students. But when it became clear they had lost control of the crowd, they stood back, allowing the largely non-violent crowd of young men and women to vent their outrage...
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/nationnow/2011/11/penn-state-students-ri...
Occupy Oakland wasn't so lucky.

Last Man Standing
Mike McQueary says that he saw Jerry Sandusky sexually assault a child. Why does he still have a job at Penn State?
http://www.slate.com/articles/sports/sports_nut/2011/11/mike_mcqueary_he...

There is a reason those stars are upside down. Money changes everything.

and

Submitted by Ms_Anthrope on Thu, 11/10/2011 - 5:23am.

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In both cases those were built in shallow water and they still cost a billion dollars plus...

It'd cost a hell of a lot more than that to haul a mile high mountain of gravel up there to do the same in deep water and you'd be burning a lot of fossil fuels to get it done...

It is NOT a solution.

Malloy brought this video up on his show tonight -- Police in riot gear attacking non-violent Pro-Occupy Berkeley students at Sproul Hall.

Really what is the LOGIC of the police doing this? Even if the students the police were beating had tried to disperse there was no place to go-- since they were pinned in by students behind them. Even if the students attempted to back up there was no place to go since the students the police jabbed/stabbed with police nightsticks -- these assaulted students were pinned between the police and alot of other students behind them who could not see the full extent of the attack. It was pure brutality by the police with no release point for the crowd. Purely a brutal tactic on the part of the police with no strategy whatsoever for dispersing the crowd.

The Police were jabbing-stabbing unarmed students -- and as Malloy pointed out --this included the police doing the same to female students.

If a policeman kills an unborn child -- is that murder, I wonder? Or is this another case (like the cancer-causing TSA airport x-ray scanners) that Homeland Security authorized/guided activities can do ANYTHING to us with impunity?

Another thought after watching this video of the Berkeley police 'unnecessary force': Is this a scenario where the Power Elite put average citizens in a low-level class war? where blue-collar police are allowed to vent their class-based frustrations out on college students (who aim for white collar jobs)? We gotta stop letting the Big Money One Percent set up situations where they pit USA citizens against each other!

Anyway, video of incident mentioned by Malloy is below--

http://www.salon.com/2011/11/10/police_beat_occupy_protesters_at_uc_berk...

which I Missed. ;)

Shots fired near 'Occupy Oakland,' one dead

OAKLAND, Calif. (KGO) -- One person has been killed after a gunfight near the Occupy Oakland camp at Frank Ogawa Plaza Thursday evening.

Six gunshots rang out shortly before 5 p.m. several feet from the 12th Street BART station adjacent to the plaza where Occupy protesters have set up camp.

Several people on Twitter said the victim was not related to the Occupy Oakland movement, but a person acting as a spokesperson for the protesters told ABC7 the victim may have been hiding out from a person or a group of people at the encampment shortly before the incident.
...

http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local/east_bay&id=8427634

Press Release: In Response To City Eviction Notice
November 10th, 2011 · patrick · News 14 comments
The following is a message from Occupy Portland’s Press Team:
PORTLAND, ORE. — The following is a response from Occupy Portland’s communications volunteers to a statement from Mayor Sam Adams, enunciated at a press conference at 10 a.m. and released from his office immediately afterward.

At noon, Thursday November 10, members of the Occupy Portland community gathered to discuss recent events and to plan the most effective actions to take next. Occupy Portland has not completed these plans. Our strategy at this moment is what Occupy strategy has always been: to consult each other, to hear each other, and to work together nonviolently to move forward into this world we aim to improve. The Occupy Movement has made visible what has long been hidden from public view. The Movement will continue to do that.

The city’s evidence of increased crime around the Occupy site has only verified what is already clear—interpersonal conflicts, substance abuse, and disorderly conduct arrests have increased. What the City of Portland has failed to prove, however, is that the protesters of Occupy Portland are direct threats to public safety and economic activity. The Occupy Portland General Assembly and an academic survey administered by a local sociology professor have demonstrated the occupiers overwhelmingly disapprove of their peaceful and non-violent First Amendment expressions being used as a cover for unlawful actions.

The city has been acutely aware of the occupiers’ deliberate and sophisticated efforts to address problems surrounding Occupy Portland. Local media institutions have been repeatedly informed of this, as well, but many published reports have omitted such information. The physical occupation of public lands has been a cornerstone of Occupy Portland’s free assembly and has served logistical necessity. The occupation will continue to exist and operate in a variety of formats. Planning for advancements of Occupy Portland have long been underway, but specific announcements will only come when appropriate.

Some of us are glad to share some common ground with the Mayor. Sam Adams said, “It is my sincere hope that the movement, with its focus on widespread economic inequity, will flourish in its next phase—a phase where we can focus all of our energies on economic and social justice, not on port-a-potties and tents.” Ours is a social and political movement involving consensus and respect for disparate voices. We need to consult with each other before we can talk about “phases” or evolving.

Detractors of the Occupy movement have used historical precedence of time, place, and manner restrictions on First Amendment expressions as justification to inhibit the efforts of the 99 percent. Occupy Portland argues that a peaceful assembly on public land is the most appropriate place and manner for First Amendment expressions. We challenge the city to facilitate public dialogues for the purpose of ensuring public space remains available for public forums. For now, we are listening to each other in every feasible way. When a consensus is reached, another statement will be forthcoming.

Occupy Portland calls on all of our friends to assist as possible. Remember that your own personal safety comes first. Tens of thousands have given from their hearts, minds, and pockets, and done so without condition. Please continue to stand in solidarity as a beautiful, talented, and diverse 99 percent that demand equity and justice. We welcome your presence, words, trades, professions, and actions. Do not back down from the power structures that aim to divide and silence us. Many have worked hard in public service, and we shall continue to better the world—for all.

I'd say 8 years tops...and then well...good fucking luck everyone.

Energy Agency Warns Governments to Take Action Against Global Warming

LONDON—Dangerous climate change will be essentially irreversible within a little over five years, the International Energy Agency said in an annual report urging governments to do what they can to prevent this outcome.

To prevent long-term average global temperatures rising more than two degrees Celsius (3.6 degrees Fahrenheit) above preindustrial levels—seen as the maximum possible increase without serious climate disruption—immediate, drastic changes to energy and industrial policies are needed, the IEA said in its World Energy Outlook.

Greenhouse Gas Index Continues to Climb

ScienceDaily (Nov. 9, 2011) — NOAA's updated Annual Greenhouse Gas Index (AGGI), which measures the direct climate influence of many greenhouse gases such as carbon dioxide and methane, shows a continued steady upward trend that began with the Industrial Revolution of the 1880s.

Started in 2004, the AGGI reached 1.29 in 2010. That means the combined heating effect of long-lived greenhouse gases added to the atmosphere by human activities has increased by 29 percent since 1990, the "index" year used as a baseline for comparison. This is slightly higher than the 2009 AGGI, which was 1.27, when the combined heating effect of those additional greenhouse gases was 27 percent higher than in 1990.

Leon Panetta warns against Iran strike

US defence secretary says military action against Iranian nuclear sites could have unintended consequences for the region

Military action against Iran could have "unintended consequences" in the region, the US defence secretary, Leon Panetta, said on Thursday, hours after Tehran warned that an attack against its nuclear sites would be met with "iron fists".

Panetta, who took over the Pentagon's top job in July, said he agreed with the assessment of his predecessor, Robert Gates, that a strike on Iran would only delay its nuclear programme, which the west believes is aimed at making an atomic bomb.

"You've got to be careful of unintended consequences here," Panetta told reporters at the Pentagon.

"It could have a serious impact in the region, and it could have a serious impact on US forces in the region," he said. "And I think all of those things, you know, need to be carefully considered."

Open Letter to Mayor Sam Adams and Police Chief Michael Reese:

As members of the Portland community, we urge you to take a more constructive approach toward the Occupy Portland encampment than the inevitably conflictual eviction effort you have threatened. We want to stress that we do not speak for Occupy Portland but as part of the 99% who very much appreciate the megaphone Occupy Portland has given to the issues we all care about.

We understand that cooperation between the Occupy Portland community and the Portland police has been generally productive and respectful to date and we don't see why that can't continue. While it is true there have been some problems at the camp with drugs and property damage, those problems beset the City at all times, and in fact the people in the Occupy encampment have been, by your own accounts, helpful in dealing with those problems. We believe that those problems you worry about at the Occupy Portland encampment reflect the tremendous income disparity and lack of social services, mental health services, and affordable housing, that the Occupy Wall Street movement has so effectively brought to the fore.

Rather than sweep the encampment, homelessness, and income disparity out of sight once again, the City of Portland should adopt concrete measures to address some of those concerns. We ask that you begin by looking publicly at the disparity in spending by the City on the needs of the 1% versus the 99%. We could use some of those buildings the City and the Portland Development Commission subsidized which are now laying vacant or partially vacant due to the economic crash to provide housing, social services, and gathering places for the homeless and near homeless of this City. For the many veterans among them, we could provide counseling, health care, a chance at community somewhere other than under a bridge in the cold and rain. We could commit to training for our police on nonviolent interactions with the homeless and mentally ill and on issues of racial profiling.

There are many steps you and the City Council could take, concrete steps, not just rhetoric, that would show good faith. We need positive action not eviction!

Respectfully yours,

Steve Hughes
State Director, Oregon Working Families Party

Barbara Dudley
Co-chair, Oregon Working Families Party

Occupy Portland Briefing 11/11/11
November 11th, 2011 · occupypdxer · Media 28 comments
What Happened Yesterday?

The Mayor announced a notice of eviction for Occupy Portland effective at 12:01 AM Sunday. Occupy Portland held an emergency General Assembly at noon, then another General Assembly at seven. At the end of the night, seven different action groups had begun enacting our responses, including a group that is planning on cleaning the parks of as many structures and messes as possibly, and outreach group dedicated toward getting more people down on Saturday, and an “Occu-Festival” to be held Saturday night prior to the deadline. The group decided overwhelmingly, with almost 100% consensus, to stay in the parks.

What’s Happening Today?

Today there is a Veteran’s Day gathering at Pioneer Courthouse Square at 11:11 AM to protest all war. The Spokes Council will meet tonight at a time still to be determined, (likely 7PM). A lot of outreach to the community is happening today, to make them aware of the eviction and enlist their support on Saturday night.

What Can I Do From Home?

Contact the city to let them know you support Occupy Portland!

[ mayorsam@portlandoregon.gov, nick@portlandoregon.gov, randy@portlandoregon.gov, dan@portlandoregon.gov, amanda@portlandoregon.gov ]

Tell other people about the eviction and explain how much of the reasoning is exaggerated. The business lobby is getting us removed.

Marian Grebanier on November 11th, 2011 at 4:06 pm #
Dear Sam, Nick, Randy, Dan, Amanda,
I am writing to you to reconsider the hasty deadline you have set for Occupy Portland.
I support their message.
I understand they have some difficult issues to deal with–most of which has been present and insufficiently dealt with by the city, With the help of my city to whom I pay taxes I would hope that solutions and bringing in the trained people needed this can be worked out.
For one thing at the very least, step back from the deadline that I know is in response to certain kinds of pressure, and find the truly peaceful, non-violent way to help move this along to practical next steps. I know there are some very good people you have been negotiating with all along.
Please support what is a sincere attempt to bring the very very serious situation our country finds itself in out into the light by largely serious, intelligent, capable and non-violent people.
sincerely.
Marian Grebanier
mgrebanier@gmail.com

Occupation Information

CALENDAR
UPCOMING EVENTS WIKI

The General Assembly meets at 7pm
Location: The ampitheater at Terry Schrunk Plaza (located across from Portland City Hall at the 1200 block of SW Third Avenue)

Contact:
Email: info@occupyportland.org
Mail: P.O. BOX 2113
Portland, OR 97208
Media: press@occupyportland.org

Sign up to be notified of an immediate emergency at Occupy Portland (Police/National Guard action, etc) here.

Text "PDXOccupy" to 23559 to receive emergency updates about the coming eviction.
http://occupyportland.org/2011/11/11/pbs-newshour-jim-occupy-portland-de...

He’s No Bill Clinton!
by ALEXANDER COCKBURN
As he prepares to follow Gov. Rick Perry into the oubliette of campaign history Herman Cain can at least console himself that as an alleged harasser of women, his was certainly a classier act than that of a man who not only got elected president in 1992 but was triumphantly reelected in 1996, each time by about 45 million Americans armed with the knowledge that if you left your wife at the next table to Gov. Bill Clinton of Arkansas in Macdonald’s, by the time you got back from ordering more fries Bill would be ensconced in your seat, his hand already hovering above your wife’s thigh.

Sharon Bialek, one of the women accusing Cain of seeking to take advantage when he was head of the National Restaurant Association in 1997, says that her apprehensions were aroused when in his car, having offered to drive her home, Cain told her he’d already called Washington’s Capital Hilton and upgraded her accommodations to a luxury suite. It was only after this material demonstration of his high regard that Cain put his hand up her skirt and then sought to guide her head towards his lower regions. Ms Bialek says the minute she said No, Cain abandoned his advances and drove her home.

A luxury suite! One of Bill’s targets, when he was governor of Arkansas, would have been lucky to get a ride home in the troop car, after a brisk session in the governor’s office, with bruises on her arms when she resisted the guiding hand. Who says this isn’t the land of progress? Seventy years ago a black man making the sort of advances of which Cain is accused tended to end up swinging from the branch of a tree, not running for president with a hefty quotient of Americans saying they don’t give a toss about the harassment charges.
[...]
Back in 1979 our friend Tim Hermach, now fearless leader of the Native Forest Council and breathing the righteous air of Eugene, Oregon, was a businessman seeking commercial advantage. In 1979 this search took him to Little Rock, Arkansas, where an associate said the swiftest way of getting a certificate of origin necessary for a rebar (reinforcing steel for construction) deal was by conferring personally with the new governor of the state.

In short order a dinner was arranged with young Governor Bill at the Little Rock Hilton. Tim recalls that they were scarcely seated before Bill was greeting a pretty young waitress in friendly fashion, putting his hand up her dress while announcing genially to the assembled company, “This woman has the sweetest cunt in Little Rock.”

Tim, an Oregon boy by origin, tells us he listened with burning ears and mouth agape as Bill talked of womanhood in terms of astounding crudity. Badinage notwithstanding, some business was transacted. Hermach tells us that Governor Bill “very openly, nothing shy about it, said words to the effect that our end use certificate would cost about $10,000″, said transaction being of a personal, informal nature. “Since ours was a $2 million deal, we didn’t care,” Tim recalls.
http://www.counterpunch.org/2011/11/11/he’s-no-bill-clinton/

By OccupyWallSt

Source: OccupyWallSt
Sunday, November 06, 2011

Statement by members of sexual assault survivor’s team at OWS

We are writing this statement to inform our fellow occupiers about an incident of sexual assault at Occupy Wall Street (OWS) and the response to it. We are also writing this statement to respond to media accounts that blame the survivor, and that attempt to use this horrific incident to attack OWS. We write this statement as supporters of OWS, as fellow survivors, and as allies.

On the morning of October 29, a woman participating in OWS was sexually assaulted at Liberty Square. The person who she identified as having assaulted her was arrested on November 1 for a previous assault and is currently incarcerated.

On the morning of the assault, the survivor was accompanied to the hospital by a group of women from OWS, including a social worker, to support her and act as advocates. From the moment the incident was discovered to the present time, the survivor has been surrounded by a network of allies and trained advocates offering resources to provide emotional, medical, and legal support. At every step of the process, and in line with the core principles of survivor support, her wishes as to how she wanted to proceed have been honored, and information from a range of sources has been provided to her about her options. The survivor knew immediately that she wanted to make sure that the person who assaulted her did not harm anyone else at OWS. Community members honored this demand by asking that this person to stay off site, and, when he refused, monitored his activity and ejected him from the space.

These efforts provided the survivor with the time and space to carefully review the options available to her. Following two days of discussion with family, friends, supporters, and anti-violence advocates, the survivor decided to make a report to the police and to push for a criminal investigation and prosecution. Supporters from OWS accompanied her to the police station, and will continue to support her throughout the legal process.
http://www.zcommunications.org/transforming-harm-and-building-safety-by-...

Activism
Thursday 10 November 2011
by: Juan Cole, TomDispatch | News Analysis

Occupy San Francisco, October 15, 2011. (Photo: Eric Wagner)

From Tunis to Tel Aviv, Madrid to Oakland, a new generation of youth activists is challenging the neoliberal state that has dominated the world ever since the Cold War ended. The massive popular protests that shook the globe this year have much in common, though most of the reporting on them in the mainstream media has obscured the similarities.

Whether in Egypt or the United States, young rebels are reacting to a single stunning worldwide development: the extreme concentration of wealth in a few hands thanks to neoliberal policies of deregulation and union busting. They have taken to the streets, parks, plazas, and squares to protest against the resulting corruption, the way politicians can be bought and sold, and the impunity of the white-collar criminals who have run riot in societies everywhere. They are objecting to high rates of unemployment, reduced social services, blighted futures, and above all the substitution of the market for all other values as the matrix of human ethics and life.

Pasha the Tiger

In the “glorious thirty years” after World War II, North America and Western Europe achieved remarkable rates of economic growth and relatively low levels of inequality for capitalist societies, while instituting a broad range of benefits for workers, students, and retirees. From roughly 1980 on, however, the neoliberal movement, rooted in the laissez-faire economic theories of Milton Friedman, launched what became a full-scale assault on workers’ power and an attempt, often remarkably successful, to eviscerate the social welfare state.
http://www.truth-out.org/protest-planet-how-neoliberal-shell-game-create...

I wish to answer you soon.

I also HAVE TO READ EVERYONE'S Posts...! Intense! ;)

... now to read.

BTW Nobody all constant updates can be constantly 'updated' regarding fake islands.

I think you are stuck in that 'no money' conundrum. ;)

Don't get too angry with me. I understand, but I think many WE THE PEOPLE are to Blame ~ including media-source-parents, that now (and then - even in 80s) are speaking of the divide.

Leaders, when I was a wee lil protester, were aware of the different 'type' of agitators ~ some trying to inflict a divide. There has always been 'negative' agitators.
;)

* ;)

Occupy Portland Prepares for Eviction Deadline

http://occupyportland.org/

since the beginning ~ I LOVE that 'some' and now MANY & MANY & MANY are getting active. {Rethugs should STFU about the young and scruffy in the "OCCUPY EVERYWHERE" ~~ they are representing ones, as me, that can't be there!}(...But then again this has incorporated ALL (... in a non-business manner)!) ;D

MANY are "banding together in ONE VOICE i.e. E Pluribus Unum". ;)

To bad that many doesn't march for The Homeless (The Homeless: Animal & Human}, The Wolves, & The Wild! ;( ... yet we are banding together ;)

Thxs BTW ~ but lost me when that guy went on AND ON about Socialism.

We have many agencies which are basically of the Socialism structure. We are building toward Socialism and do not need to "divide thus be conquered". Let's build infrastructure. ;)

YEA!

;)

http://www.livestream.com/occupyptown

Out in the Streets!

;( GRRR EPD! I am deciding what to do on next protest in Eureka. I think as "an action" I will be calling EPD and say their actions are causing me to attend next protest. Mwah HaHa & Brew HaHa & Tea Cheers ;)

;) {Tea gosh I might even BrewHaHa coffee ;}

Daylight Disinfectant is not one person but a small group of new media journalists dedicated to exposing the Left. The videos here clearly show the left advocating violence, engaging in racism and homophobia, anti-Americanism, as well as other abhorrent rhetoric. If you have a tip, message us. One of us will answer shortly.

What do we know about this group? Sounds like a Breitbart sort of organization to me. Looking for isolated incidents to amplify in order to paint the left in general and the occupy movement specifically as racist and intolerant. Their youtube site says they are based in Philadelphia.

The Police are massing for another attempt at closing down Occupy Portland.

from themselves...but that might just be me...

"This Is What Occupation looks like!"

http://www.livestream.com/occupyptown

;)

I needed to see The People PUSHING The Police, Leah on Sun, 11/13/2011 - 10:31pm, especially since all I saw this Day was 'cops' pushing We The People
around. ;)

Regions must brace for weather extremes: UN climate panel

A 20-page draft "summary for policymakers" obtained by AFP says in essence that global warming will create weather on steroids.

It also notes that these amped-up events -- cyclones, heat waves, diluvian rains, drought -- will hit the world unevenly.

Subject to modification, the draft summary will be examined by governments at a six-day IPCC meeting starting on Monday in the Ugandan capital of Kampala.

In the worst scenario, human settlement in some areas could be wiped out, the report warns.

how does one react besides the standard "I told you so", when one hears & sees the horrors Climate Change Can Produce?

"how does one react besides the standard "I told you so", when one hears & sees the horrors Climate Change Can Produce?"

Triage.

;) TeaHee
{She wonders why he is awake "in the wee hrs"? Knock Knock Neo.}

"awake "in the wee hrs?"

My oldest son decided to pick tonight to throw nearly every logical fallacy in the book at me in an effort to piss me off. He succeeded.

Strange argument to have lasted 6 hours and ended up with him stomping off twice...

His contention is that thoughts, ideas, theories, opinions have no value so therefore all are equal.

My contention is that different thoughts, ideas, theories, opinions have differing values depending upon the contents of said same.

So in other words, he's having father issues and regardless of how ridiculous his arguments I have to take him seriously, which resulted in a blistering fucking headache.

This is the boy that at 3 years old tried to explain to me that crapping on the floor was more efficient than using the toilet...

In some ways he was so advanced...I dunno wtf happened.

;D

http://aldf.org/article.php?id=1859

Victory for Tony! Court Rules Current Permit Must Be Revoked

TigerUpdate
November 2, 2011: Great news from Baton Rouge, where Judge Michael Caldwell has ruled in favor of the Animal Legal Defense Fund and Louisiana taxpayers in our lawsuit to free Tony the Tiger from the Tiger Truck Stop in Grosse Tete, Louisiana.

Judge Caldwell agreed with ALDF’s argument that the permit that allows Sandlin to keep Tony was unlawfully issued by the Louisiana Department of Wildlife and Fisheries. The judge ordered the Department to revoke the current permit and prohibited it from issuing any new permits to the Truck Stop. “We are thrilled that the court made the right decision,” says ALDF Executive Director Stephen Wells. “We will continue to do everything we can to make sure Tony’s next home is a reputable, accredited sanctuary that can give Tony the life he deserves.”

Mic Check!

Police in Riot Gear Raid Zuccotti Park, Order Protesters to Vacate

Police say it is a "temporary evacuation"

Tuesday, Nov 15, 2011 | Updated 1:29 AM EST

Hundreds of police officers, some in riot gear, descended on Zuccotti Park after midnight Tuesday in a surprise sweep of the Occupy Wall Street headquarters.

It comes just two days ahead of a massive planned demonstration Thursday marking the movement's two-month anniversary.

Police handed out letters to protesters ordering them to temporarily evacuate the park. Police said the eviction will improve health conditions.

Campers were ordered to remove all their tents. Police claimed it was a health issue.

Protesters were told they will be allowed to return to the park in several hours, after the park is inspected, but without their property, which will be brought to a sanitation garage.

Some protesters have left but a large number have stayed behind. They chanted at police, "Whose park, our park."

From Kevin.. :)

*******

The day the Supreme Court gathered behind closed doors to consider the politically divisive question of whether it would hear a challenge to President Obama’s healthcare law, two of its justices, Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas, were feted at a dinner sponsored by the law firm that will argue the case before the high court.

Con't..

Free Democracy: Scalia and Thomas dine with healthcare law challengers as court takes case

*******

This crap really burns me up..

Judicial,Political Corruption..
Just another ho hum day in Washington DC..

Thx,Kevin.. :)

*******

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

MMRules

;)

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"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

MMRules

Submitted by Alice on Sun, 11/06/2011 - 2:09pm.

--

Ah,maybe not.. ;)

**

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

MMRules

)

Eye-Roll The Whole World Is Watching ;);(
{too cool ;) }

I think Pat Paulsen might be running again...
Submitted by MMRules on Tue, 11/15/2011 - 3:07am.

...his time has come. If the reich can resurrect Reagan, why not Pat Paulsen? :)

http://www.livestream.com/occupyptown

eya gang!

Bookburning USA: Obama’s Traitor Troops Trash OWS Library as his EPA Awards Book-Burners for Outstanding Recycling
By: normanb Wednesday November 16, 2011 2:27 am

According to two of President Obama’s most consistent supporters [Michael Moore and Keith Olbermann], the storm troopers who swept into Occupy camps yesterday Torturing protesters across the country were doing so under President Obama’s direction.

They clubbed and gassed peaceful protesters, destroyed their homes (shredded tents), and threw their world-famous library into dump trucks – garbage trucks. None of these Traitors who took part in these Acts of War against the American people has yet been charged or arrested.

When Rachel Maddow on MSNBC showed photos of some of the books displayed by the NYPD (Nazi York Police Department), she noted that the photo had prompted Occupy Wall Street librarians to ask “Where are the rest of our books?”

And, to rub our nose in his destruction of our books, and in his destruction of our Rights, last week President Obama’s Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) praised book-destruction company Better World Books and presented it with the EPA’s WasteWise Small Business Partner of the Year Award.

(What does the P in EPA stand for anyway? The EPA is P-ing on us again.)

The last time I reported on Better World Books’ disgraceful practice, they insisted that I let people know that they did not actually burn the thirty-five million books they’ve destroyed so far. The company did not tell me how they do destroy the books.

If the chosen method of book destruction is recycling it into paper, then an environmentally destructive coagulant must be purchased from DuPont in order to process that gathered paper scrap back into wood-pulp paper. In such cases, DuPont (a company whose CEO regularly meets with the President) profits off every book. DuPont is the worst climate and pollution villain on the planet. VP Joe Biden has for decades enjoyed a cozy relationship with DuPont, the largest tax payer in his home state of Delaware.

Book Burning USA Better World Books collects used books from universities, libraries and elsewhere, then destroys 50% of them, to make the enterprise profitable.

http://www.southeastgreen.com/index.php/metro-atl-news/5065-environmenta...

http://my.firedoglake.com/normanb/2010/09/07/massive-book-burning-projec...

You’ll see in the interview below from Bloomberg TV that the fake hippie CEO of Better World admits destroying half of the 70 million books the company collected.

http://blog.betterworldbooks.com/2009/06/17/did-you-catch-us-on-bloomber...
http://my.firedoglake.com/normanb/2011/11/16/bookburning-usa-obamas-trai...

The fascist pig scum should just stay put in our new colony protectorate, "Australia.":

Over 100 police raid Occupy Melbourne and remove First Nations Embassy/Customs House

...Today’s police action was just another “move on” action by the state against Aboriginal people in the same way force has been used ever since 1788 to ensure the crown controls land use in this country. Indigenous elder and activist elder Robbie Thorpe labelled Australia a "Nazi dream" during the police action.
http://www.indymedia.org.au/2011/11/16/over-100-police-raid-occupy-melbo...

16 Nov, 2011, 06.59PM IST, PTI
Barack Obama backs Australia's u-turn on uranium sale to India

US President Barack Obama today virtually backed Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard's plans to sell uranium to India saying it "seemed to be compatible with international law and the NPT".

"India is a big player and the Australia-India relationship is one that should be cultivated," Obama said in his apparent support to Gillard's u-turn yesterday in which she expressed the country's interest to sell uranium to India....

The newspaper said the Obama administration saw Australia's refusal to sell India uranium as "a roadblock to greater engagement between Washington and New Delhi."
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics/nation/barack-obama-ba...

Some unruly colonials still remain alive--

Assange mother to protest at Obama visit

The mother of Australian-born whistleblower Julian Assange on Wednesday said she would picket a visit of US President Barack Obama to the capital, Canberra, to rally support for her son.

Christine Assange said she would take protests in support of the founder of WikiLeaks to Parliament House next Thursday, where Obama is due to address a special sitting of lawmakers under extremely tight security.

"I'll get as close as I can," she said......
http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/assange-mother-to-prote...

Someones off their fucking meds again.

Federal judge rules against city in 'Occupy' lawsuit

FORT MYERS, FL - Protestors in the "Occupy Fort Myers" encampment in Centennial Park in Fort Myers will be allowed to stay after a late-night ruling in federal court.

Judge John Steele granted a preliminary injunction against the the City of Fort Myers, saying it is likely the city violated the First Amendment by requiring protestors to have a permit and kicking them out of the park.

About a dozen tents were set up at the park as of midday Wednesday, and people have been staying in the park 24 hours a day - sometimes sleeping there - during the protest.

While sleeping in a public place isn't necessarily protected by the First Amendment, Steele ruled that in this case the camping' in the park was addressed by Judge Steele, saying "The conduct of tenting and sleeping in the park... is symbolic conduct which is protected by the First Amendment."

Hundreds of innocent citizens-occupiers arrested and booked, for exercising Free Speech and Assembly -- while the REAL lawbreakers -- from Wall Street, from K Street" (is there an "Occupy K Street, yet?), from behind the walls of the Federal Reserve -- are free to commit more crimes and continuations of their financial scams against the people and government of the U.S. and against the world economy as a whole.

Free the innocent. Let them speak!

Arrest the Wall Street crime cabal. Send them to trial!

Nighttime in America

Dear Friends,

At 1:00 AM Tuesday night, after two months of peaceful protest against the people and institutions that wrecked our economy, police officers under direct orders from the Mayor of New York City raided Occupy Wall Street and evicted protestors from Zuccotti Park.

The First Amendment of the Constitution guarantees all of us - including these protestors - the right to peacefully assemble and express our views. But over the past week, similar nighttime raids executed by mayors in Oakland, Portland and Atlanta have cast a dangerous shadow over our liberties.

Today, I am asking you to join me in standing with Occupy protests everywhere and demanding that the Mayors of America respect the First Amendment and the rights of our citizens to assemble and express themselves. Click here to sign the petition and demand that the mayors of America respect the Constitution and the rights of Occupy Wall Street to exist.

Right now, corporations are spending unlimited amounts of money to influence our election system under the guise of free speech. Yet when people like you and me gather in parks across America to protest this broken system, we are deemed a threat by local mayors.

Stand with me, Occupy Wall Street and all Americans who wish to defend our disappearing liberties in demanding that America's mayors respect the Constitution and rights guaranteed to all Americans in the First Amendment. Sign the petition today.

With respect,

Dennis

Regarding child sexual molestation/rape, note this idea from Catholic ArchBishop Dolan --

"[Archbishop] Dolan said he'd welcome a partnership with Penn State administrators on a national education campaign to stop abuse...." [ http://www.phillyburbs.com/ap/national/bishop-penn-state-scandal-reopens... ]

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And, is this P.R. idea from Archbishop Dolan as insane as the spectacle of letting Michael Vick being allowed to 'instruct' kids on how to treat non-human animals, or what?

Appears this P.R. idea worked for torturers/abusers who exploit animals, so time to trot out the same P.R. trick for smoothing over child abuse/exploitation practices whether they occur in sports or churches?

How a nation treats non-human animals horribly has some connection with how the Power Elite treats the humans (of lower classes) badly and with impunity; the Powerful consider our children just exploitable 'animals' afterall, is how it looks to me.

This nation is at the mercy of the Power Elite's P.R. tricks in manipulating public opinion. The sick and twisted values of those in charge corrupt everything and are engineered to protect their own 'interests', however degenerate those interests may be.

Commercialized Sports and The Church's Commercialized Worship -- WHAT A TEAM, huh?

Years ago, posts here by others educated me about The Franklin Scandal child abuse.

Since the Penn State Sandusky occurences are similar, it makes me think that 'recruiting' kids using Penn State resources is probably just part of the same fabric as The Franklin Scandal (children used and abused by those in Power).

The full filthy extent of that Franklin Scandal corrupt machine was never cleaned up via prosecutions all the way HIGH UP the foodchain. Will this current scandal lead to the disinfectant getting applied everywhere it SHOULD be applied -- all the way to those who have kept the lid on child exploitation and abuse in this country for decades?

Supreme Court’s planned review of health-care law shocks Medicaid advocates

While there was no surprise over the Supreme Court’s decision Monday to review the 2010 health-care act’s insurance mandate, supporters of the law are reeling over the justices’ announcement that they will also consider a long-shot challenge to what many consider an even more central provision of the statute.

That provision is the extension of Medicaid to cover a greater number of the poor. Twenty-six states say the expansion amounts to an unconstitutional coercion of state governments, which provide part of Medicaid’s funding.

“The decision on this issue is probably the most important the Supreme Court will be making on the Affordable Care Act,” said Ronald Pollack, executive director of Families USA, a consumer advocacy group that backs the law, referring to the statute by a common shorthand.

“Probably the most important achievement of the law is that it is going to reduce the number of people who don’t have health insurance by tens of millions. . . . About half of these people will gain their coverage through the Medicaid expansion. So the review of this provision goes right to the heart of the major accomplishment of the Affordable Care Act,” Pollack said.

NOT illegal? But, it SHOULD be illegal!

http://www.cnbc.com/id/43471561

[excerpt]

When you buy and sell stocks based on secrets you learned at the office, it could be insider trading.

But when a United States Senator does it, it's probably perfectly legal.

That's because the SEC has largely determined that trading stocks based on advance knowledge of action in Congress is not insider trading.

If anything, it's "outsider" trading — buying and selling shares based on knowledge of an outside force that's about to hit a company's share value.

Think of it like a trader who sees a satellite image of a hurricane bearing down on an oil rig — and shorts the oil company’s stock in expectation of the damage.

Except in the case of Capitol Hill, the members of Congress can be both the trader and the hurricane — buying and selling shares in expectation of the effect that their own action has on the company’s stock price.

...

[read more at link]

GAO report on the HIDDEN Federal Reserve bail-outs to be financed by yet unborn USAers. The GAO is kind and merely interprets the missteps by The Fed as a failure to have a safeguards against 'conflict of interest'. Sheesh, the PRIVATE central banking arrangement looks engineered to GUARANTEE ease-of-operations which benefit insiders/members!

Clearly the VERY private Federal Reserve banking system "of the United States" (so-called) has proven it is OBSOLETE and THOROUGHLY DANGEROUS to the General Welfare! END THE FEDERAL RESERVE; seize the assets of the corrupt Central Bankers who seized power over citizens' future earnings; END THIS CRIME SPREE by the 1%'s bankers!

Here's the GAO's report:

http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-11-696

Here's an analysis from Senator Sanders:

http://sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/news/?id=9e2a4ea8-6e73-4be2-a753-6206...

Sandusky said he was just "horsin' around" with those little kids.

ISN'T ANYONE going to ask him what his definition of "horsin' around" is??? Surely in childmolesting Sanduskyspeak it must mean "foreplay".

I am so sick of the total corruption of every aspect of the world that the sociopaths control -- their actions, their destruction of language, their public relations image control, and the major media that is so part of the corrupt profit chain that it appears no reporter is allowed (or safe?) to dig for the full story.

So free speech has nothing to do with "unsanitary" occupation of public places?

Too bad the authorities cannot separate out the "freedom" to make profits from the sociopathic heartlessness of foreclosing on people who lost their homes through no fault of their own, or because people were advised by BofA employees/contractors that defaulting was the only way they could get refinanced (in a program where the loans were NEVER made), or people who have been thrown out of their homes by police because a bank went to court with PHONY/fraudulent mortgage papers, and so on. The Banksters always can throw up their hands and cry, "All these messy people (biological 'units')--they are the ones who make this just too messy to sort out!"

Does Judge Stallman feel the same prejudice? That until people are totally unlike REAL, LIVE, EATING, EXCRETING human beings, their freedoms must be LIMITED and even REMOVED?

What's next from these tidy technocratic types -- FreeSpeechZones as far from Wall Street as imagineable, because Wall Street must be crisp and clean like a new dollah bill?

What REALLY STINKS is Wall Street Corruption. WALL STREET REEKS with the aftermath of their people-abusing and environment-abusing crimes of exploitation and destruction -- and yet Wall Street and this judge want to point a finger at OWS and say occupiers or filthy and dirty and smelly and pose a health threat. WALL STREET IS THE ACTUAL HEALTH THREAT TO THE WHOLE NATION AND THE PLANET.

Anyway, here's the article on the judge's ruling....

http://www.voanews.com/english/news/usa/NY-Mayor-Occupy-Protesters-Will-...

They won't disclose it on product labels.

[excerpt]

According to data listed on the FDA's own website, fresh conventional foods are typically blasted with 1 kilogray (kGy) of gamma radiation, which is the equivalent of 16,700,000 chest X-rays, or 333 times the human lethal dose. Fresh poultry and red meat are subjected to 3 kGys and 4.5 kGys, respectively, with frozen red meat subjected to radiation blasts as high as 7 kGys.

The FDA has approved gamma radiation doses of 10 kGys for enzyme preparations, which include various food additives, solvents, preservatives, and antioxidants. And spices, herbs, and seasonings are permitted to be blasted with an astounding 30 kGys of gamma radiation, which is the equivalent of 500,000,000 chest X-rays, or 10,000 times the human lethal dose.

This nuclear warfare against food most certainly destroys vital nutrients, vitamins, and minerals, and also creates a number of toxic byproducts in the process. These include formaldehyde, a toxin used in rat poison, as well as benzene, formic acid, and various radiolytic products like 2-alkylcyclobutanones that are known to cause cytotoxic (cell damage), genotoxic (DNA damage), and carcinogenic (cancer-causing) damage.

Beyond radiation, conventional food is often quietly sprayed with bacteriophage virus cocktails that supposedly kill other dangerous bacteria that might be lurking on food. Without public review or oversight, the FDA declared in 2006 that this form of biological warfare is "Generally Recognized As Safe" (GRAS), but most people have no idea it is being applied to the food they eat.

Other countries are aware of all this, though, as many have stopped importing food from the US in response. GMOs, dangerous pesticides and herbicides, nuclear radiation, and virus cocktails are unacceptable to most of the rest of the world, but are apparently just fine for Americans. This is all just one more reason to stick to organic food.

To learn more, visit:
www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/gamma-irr...

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/034156_meat_radioactive.html#ixzz1dwoFnWfY

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news.yahoo.com

Seattle activist Dorli Rainey, 84, reacts after being hit with pepper spray during an Occupy Seattle protest on Tuesday, Nov. 15, 2011 at Westlake Park in Seattle.

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AP - A downtown march and rally in support of the Occupy Wall Street movement turned briefly chaotic as police scattered a crowd of rowdy protesters — including a pregnant 19-year-old and an 84-year-old activist — with blasts of pepper spray.

Con't..

News.yahoo.com/pregnant-teen-elderly-woman-among-pepper-sprayed

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"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

MMRules

"Irradiating our Food Supply without informing the consumer"

Seriously, you need to start looking these things up before you post crap that you don't understand.

This does not make your food radioactive...but while you're freaking out about stupid shit consider the fact that if all technology was removed from this planet, the background radiation and cumulative damage from solar and extrasolar sources will probably kill you too.

Ya know the glow in the dark stickers you played with as a kid...those were radioactive.

Microwave ovens "irradiate" food in a similiar fashion and cause the same by products...

Conventional ovens do the same thing using infrared radiation...

Formaldehyde is indeed one of the most toxic chemicals out there...it's also what's produced by burning ethanol or when the body metabolizes alchohol...enjoy your next glass of wine.

Everything that's produced by the energetic breakdown of the compounds in any given food will also be produced by cooking it and/or metabolizing it.

And bacteriaphages are safer than antibiotics and occur pretty much anywhere that bacteria has ever been found...that means every square inch of reality that isn't sterile and lifeless.

And guess what...if you're a good organic gardener your garden is full of bacteriaphages and then you cook your food which produces every chemical listed and more and then...gasp...you eat it and your body produces even more toxins which are then expelled...that's why it's called waste.

Hell, every time you move a muscle it produces poison...too much of it and we experience a condition called "fatigue"...

Really, please, for the sake of sanity, would you please, please try looking crap up before you regurgitate another stupid piece of propaganda (read "horseshit") that sounds good to you, please?

The stupid...it burns.

I see not much has changed around here.. ;)

"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

MMRules

What is the underlying nature of a culture that considers itself monotheistic?

In a religious society where many individual aspects of the Divine are acknowledged and sought out through varieties of worship, there might be numerous sects or cults [I am not using the word 'cult' here to denote the crazies our current culture likes to portray] of different varieties (ritualistic, superstitious, philosophical/intellectual, possibly but not necessarily hinge-ing on the educational level of the practioner) -- there seem to be considerable levels of religious tolerance. I've just read that a socieity with this kind of tolerance might be considered 'additive'. They don't necessarily reject the 'old' for the 'new', but these old and new ideas/teachings/practices can exist simultaneously in a people's everyday lives, and can continue to be open to ever additional ideas and practices.

Tolerance, including religious tolerance, seems to be an ability to 'add more' and not feel threatened by this multiplicity of possibilities/choices/explorations/ideas/beliefs.

Obviously, there are those who cannot tolerate this 'additive' approach to living with diverse ideas, and even cannot tolerate diversity in types of people.

Regarding religion, the problem of intolerance appears to have been born as an institution with those who chose to sculpt Christianity into a religion that matched or reflected the authoritarianism of the Roman Imperialist state, and marry it to make the Holy Roman Empire. This was the birth of intolerant theocracy that worked to squash all other approaches to spiritual discovery, and establish fear as a technology, and question and destroy other religions and their practioners.

In Western 'Civilization' there is constant assurance in and stated pride about monotheism being the highest expression, the most advanced religious finding in human religious 'progress'. But is that really a valid point from which to continue to base NATIONAL behavior and policy? (It is interesting to me that the intolerant nature of the Holy Roman Empire was already well established -- and concretely proved in places like Egypt where the Christian monotheists through edict made it illegal to continue not only Egyptian religious practices and teachings but also outlawed the Egyptian written LANGUAGE -- and this Church as government monotheistic authoritarianism was the authoritarian institutional model on which Islam appears to have been based when formed in the 7th century.)

If we continue to be led/coerced to accept as valid this assumption/attitude about Western Civilization and what we have to offer the world as a whole -- aren't we setting ourselves up for more of the same authoritarian intolerance not only from our national policy and politics but also the dominant religious beliefs in our country?

And if we are not willing to say 'wait a minute here' to those who desire to destroy all things 'additive', aren't we ourselves sacrificing our diverse Planet for exactly what the Dominionists are and what THEY offer -- authoritarian religious intolerance and a worldview of domination/predation over all life and landscape?

"I see not much has changed around here.. ;)"

LOL...

Change isn't always obvious and even constants can be variable...

Submitted by Nobody on Thu, 11/17/2011 - 5:43am.

...

The stupid...it burns.

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So, Nobody you like buying foods that aren't labelled accurately? Not everybody agrees with that 'sell me any old thing in a package' attitude. What do have against product disclosure and labelling? It sounds like you are advocating for keeping us consumers ignorant of what we are paying for and consuming, even ingesting. What's the name of your new Nobody's advocacy group?: "No Truth in Labelling -- Please Keep Us In The Dark, We Like It"? Or would your group also do lobbying and need a name like "Freedom from Labels" to help out the corporate food processing giants?

Sheesh.

Now this is a good post...

A little off in the particulars but the general thrust is quite good, as well as the execution.

If you would be so kind as to delve deeper into the subject, I would enjoy it.

I would caution however that even tolerance for difference has it's natural limits...there are simply some things that are so harmful that they should not be tolerated.

"No Truth in Labelling -- Please Keep Us In The Dark, We Like It"?"

Why would I like that any more than I do the lack of truth in the horseshit you post sometimes?

What I'm advocating, what I'm always advocating with you, is that you should make the effort to learn the truth before passing on misinformation.

What you're bitching about here is that I told the truth when I caught you posting horseshit again when you could've easily looked it up...I know that you're capable of looking it up so you either didn't care if it was true or you knew that it wasn't and didn't care still.

How about some 'Truth in Blogging' Nora?

Misinformation, lies...they're harmful and with the level of crap you spew sometimes it easily reaches the level of psychological violence.

You think that I was just being mean when I told you that "reading your posts actually make people stupider"?...I wasn't, I was telling you what actually happens.

You know damned well that there is a long record of your "mistakes" here...you don't need to keep making them and then try to blame it on whomever calls you out on them...

If you're going to talk about something...KNOW something about what you talk about.

PERIOD.

American politicians only have a problem with occupations when they happen in the USA

...a comment from a radio listener.

Go to majority.fm 11:30 am - 11:30 pm

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Ingredients:
1 pound Swiss chard
1 cup uncooked rice, pre-soaked for 10 minutes
1/2 cup olive oil
1/2 cup chopped spring onions (scallions or green onions)
1 lemon, squeezed
1/2 cup chopped fresh parsley
Preparation:
Wash the Swiss chard well. Remove the stalks and chop. Chop the leaves and set aside to drain.

Heat the oil and saute the spring onions until soft. Season with salt and allspice.

Add the rice and toss for a few minutes. Add the chard stalks, leaves, and parsley. Add 1-1/2 cups boiling water and bring to a boil, uncovered.

Cover, reduce the heat and simmer until the rice is cooked, about 15-20 minutes. Allow the rice to stand for a few minutes before serving.

sam runs out of skype credit!

and DORSEY calls in! yay!

Thanksgiving At Best Buy: Workers Rebel Against Early Black Friday Openings, Shortened Holiday
By Dave Jamieson
11/17/2011

In yet another sign of worker frustration over a shortened Thanksgiving holiday, an employee at a Best Buy in Tampa has launched a petition against his employer's decision to open earlier for the Black Friday shopping spree this year, claiming the midnight opening time will eat into workers' holiday time with their families.

The petition on Change.org, attributed to 8-year Best Buy veteran Rick Melaragni, comes on the heels of a similar, high-profile petition launched last week by a Target employee in Nebraska. The latter petition has racked up more than 150,000 signatures.
Continue reading here:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/17/thanksgiving-best-buy-early-ope...

...or not at all...Create!

wfi ... wfi ... TEA! ;D
now to kinda read posts {... yet i should b kinda asleepppzzzzzz}

kewl ;)

;)

on FB Sites... ;) MANY SIGNED!

The White House info@messages.whitehouse.gov via service.govdelivery.com to me
show details 2:34 PM (3 hours ago)

Humane Care and Management of America’s Wild Horses and Burros
By Bob Abbey is Director of the Bureau of Land Management

Thank you for your petition regarding the Bureau of Land Management's (BLM) Wild Horse and Burro Program.

The BLM shares your commitment to the humane care and management of wild horses and burros. As described by Congress under the Wild Free-Roaming Horses and Burros Act of 1971, these animals are living symbols of the historic and pioneer spirit of the West. The BLM's goal is to protect and effectively manage these iconic animals for current and future generations of Americans.

The BLM performs gathers of wild horses and burros in response to the annual herd growth rate. In many cases, the ecosystems of public rangelands are not able to withstand the impacts from overpopulated herds, which include soil erosion, sedimentation of streams, and damage to wildlife habitat. The 1971 Act (Section 1333) mandates that once the Interior Secretary "determines...that an overpopulation exists on a given area of the public lands and that action is necessary to remove excess animals, he shall immediately remove excess animals from the range so as to achieve appropriate management levels."

The BLM estimates that approximately 38,500 wild horses and burros (about 33,000 horses and 5,500 burros) are roaming on BLM-managed rangelands in 10 Western states based on the latest data available, compiled as of February 28, 2011. Wild horses and burros have virtually no natural predators and their herd sizes can double about every four years

The estimated current free-roaming population exceeds by nearly 12,000 the number that the BLM has determined can exist in balance with other public rangeland resources and uses. (The appropriate management level is approximately 26,600.) Off the range, there are more than 41,000 other wild horses and burros that are fed and cared for at short-term corrals and Midwestern long-term pastures. In the most recently completed fiscal year (2011), holding costs accounted for $43.2 million (57 percent) out of a total enacted Wild Horse and Burro Program budget of $75.8 million. The Government Accountability Office (GAO), in an October 2008 report, found the program's mounting holding costs to be unsustainable.

As a result of the GAO report, and because of feedback like yours, the BLM is preparing to publish a new wild horse and burro management strategy as part of its ongoing effort to reform the Wild Horse and Burro Program and put it on a sustainable and cost-effective track. The new strategy emphasizes population growth suppression techniques, including fertility control; promotes public-private eco-sanctuaries to hold excess wild horses removed from Western public rangelands; seeks to boost adoptions by making more trained wild horses available to the public; and establishes a comprehensive animal welfare program. The BLM developed the new strategy after actively soliciting input from both the public and the agency's Wild Horse and Burro Advisory Board on how to best ensure the health of America's wild horses and burros, both on and off the range.

The BLM will move forward with this strategy and make any necessary adjustments after the National Academy of Sciences (NAS) completes a two-year study that has been commissioned by the BLM. The NAS study, to be finished by 2013, will recommend how the BLM should proceed in light of the latest scientific research. During the time the NAS study is carried out, the BLM plans to gather and remove from Western public rangelands approximately 7,600 excess animals annually from Fiscal Year 2012 through FY 2014– down from planned removals of more than 10,000 a year – to keep the overall on-the-range wild horse and burro population at 38,000 to 39,000 during this timeframe. (Some additional gathers may be necessary in emergency situations.)

It is important to note that the strategy also includes a comprehensive animal welfare program through which the BLM will strengthen humane animal care and handling practices. The standards set by this program will apply to BLM employees and volunteers, along with contractors who gather wild horses and burros from the range and those who feed and care for these animals in short-term or long-term holding facilities.

For more information please visit the BLM's page here.

Check out this response on We the People.

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Ear Splitting Pain Compliance Device
By Digby
November 17, 2011 - 2:50pm ET

Yet another pain compliance device in use against American citizens...a spokesman for the (msnufacturer) said:
If you stand right next to it for several minutes, you could have hearing damage," he said. "But it's your choice."
See? You have a choice. You can just not protest. If you do, expect torture and possible permanent damage. That's what being free is all about.
Read post in its entirety:
http://ourfuture.org/blog-entry/2011114617/ear-splitting-pain-compliance...

...No money for social programs, but there is money for this; and people willing to use it.

"Ear Splitting Pain Compliance Device"

Because of the nature of this device, it's effects can be reflected back upon the source with any hard and flat object.

A laptop is almost the perfect counter measure.

;) Used on more ECO Radical Protesters {always NON-VIOLENT} & by JAPAN Whalers against Sea Shepherds.
I need to Brew more Tea /|\)0( mwah haha

Faster-than-light neutrinos confirmed

Researchers say new tests have confirmed earlier indications that neutrinos can travel faster than light, but not everyone is convinced.

The claim runs so counter to a century's worth of physics that most observers won't be content until the findings from the OPERA experiment are repeated under a variety of conditions, by different teams of researchers. If the results hold up, that would require a reinterpretation of Albert Einstein's special theory of relativity, which effectively sets the velocity of light in a vacuum as a cosmic speed limit.

The latest round of tests was conducted to address some of the criticisms that cropped up in the wake of the OPERA team's initial announcement about faster-than-light neutrinos in September.

;) A. E.'s special T.o.R. ... soon 2B *Poof*

YEA! excuse my nerdrection but this is major
Submitted by Nobody on Thu, 11/17/2011 - 11:49pm.
Faster-than-light neutrinos confirmed

...but I am intrigued and ask that you enlighten me as to the practical application(s)that would be affected. Forgive my ignorance, be gentle:)

This is what the obama State looks like:
Submitted by ghettodefender on Wed, 11/16/2011 - 5:08pm.

Obama has been acting as Bush-lite (some ways better than Bush and other ways, worse. Although I can't stand him, he is better than ANY RETHUG!
{... strategy ... ;}

* I just saw addressed to ... ;)

From Oakland, California to New York City, the police, ordered by politicians, have smashed through Occupy encampments. Noted for their rigorous non-violence and orderly arrangements - tents with medical assistance, legal aid, libraries, media relations and sanitation controls - the Occupy protestors are being shoved out of their public places all over the country.

The Mayor of Oakland admitted to the BBC in an interview that mayors, police and other security officials have been in contact with each other regarding how to deal with the removal of the protestors, including an 18 mayor conference call she participated in recently.

The police power is always the first response to a mobilized citizen action that refuses to go away. Even a protest against corporate greed and governmental complicity shattering the economy and millions of livelihoods, which has widespread support by the American people, faces police intervention.

How else has the plutocracy of the corporatists and the oligarchy of the politicians who serve them responded? President Obama has remained aloof, as he did earlier this year with the giant Wisconsin labor protests. California Governor Jerry Brown has stayed out of the fray. The Congress is wallowing in its tone-deaf bubble squabbling over how to reduce the crumbs for the masses while the obscenely-bonused corporate bosses feast on the tables of corporate welfare and privilege.

Chris Hedges, the Pulitzer-prize winning war correspondent - described what entrenched illegitimacy by the power brokers has to offer besides force:

"Our elites have exposed their hand. They have nothing to offer. They can destroy but they cannot build. They can repress but they cannot lead. They can steal but they cannot share. They have no ideas, no plans and no vision for the future."

Except, one may add, for the perpetuation of their autocratic, self-enriching, dominant rule at the expense of the "99 percent." Their outcry is for law and order - clear the tents from the public parks. These are the same corporatists who constantly receive from the corporate-dominated state all kinds of waivers from health and safety regulations, from government contract rules, from fair labor standards, from taxes. And all kinds of loopholes to enhance their profits and executive pay packages. But there are no waivers for orderly encampments non-violently advancing justice for "we the people" by spotlighting the gross inequities and cruelties imposed on tens of millions of innocent Americans.

As the destruction of the Occupy encampments proceeds, this movement will disperse into many locations and become larger and stronger. From the neighborhoods, joining with long-valiant community groups, the Occupy protestors will return by day to these public squares for their ever-more innovative demonstrations.

One protestor told "Democracy Now" that their expulsion from over-night stays in Zuccotti Park will show "how intuitive and ingenious a movement we have." Already the protestors have shown their adaptive creativity. They responded to a ban on bullhorns or other amplifiers with the "human microphone," relaying words through waves of people.

Occupy Wall Street had a 5,000 book library loaning books to residents without access to a nearby city library branch. So taken was the "Washington Post's" architectural editor, Phillip Kennicott with Occupy Washington at McPherson Square that he devoted two pages to an aerial view and report of its intricate organization calling it a "vibrant brand of urbanism." The same is true of the other Washington, D.C. Occupy site at Freedom Plaza. So far City Hall and the National Park Service have left them alone.

With the coming of winter and the Occupy sites overwhelmed with the hungry and homeless poor - some urged to go there by the police - it was time for stage two. By not being somewhere, the Occupy movement will now be everywhere - in the neighborhoods, on the campuses, in churches and union halls, and marching in the streets toward the edifices of the corporatists and their political lackeys.

Furthermore, this diffusion and magnification will spread into the established institutions themselves as first a few and then more whistleblowers, dissenters and other silent patriots do their part to subordinate the corporate structures and political controllers to the sovereignty of the people. After all our Constitution's preamble starts with "we the people," and ends without a single mention of corporations or political parties.

Becoming stronger from violent over-reaction by the police, it will become an "Occupy America" movement with demands for long-overdue revisions of priorities and equities relating to children, workers, consumers, taxpayers, retirees and restricted voters. The sheer volume of Americans coming into the streets with their non-violence will exhaust police resources and police resolve. Already, the city police and local district attorney in Albany, New York refused the governor's order to arrest and remove peaceful protestors. Why? Because said one police official "we don't have those resources and these people were not causing trouble," as quoted in the instant new paperback "This Changes Everything."

At the University of California at Berkeley demonstration, Daniel Ellsberg said that the official enforcers' "instinct for repression is irrepressible." That is the dark view, predicted by Aldous Huxley's "Brave New World Revisited" - a copy of which was found, ironically, in the debris of the destroyed Zuccotti Park library by Amy Goodman of "Democracy Now."

But the instinct for freedom and justice is also irrepressible. Who are you betting on to prevail this time?

The biggest thing about this is how this effects thought about physics rather than what's likely to shake out of the changes in thinking. This effectively sends the physicists back to the drawing board.

The Special Theory of Relativity and General Relativity Theory have become dogmatic, much like Newtonian physics before it had and any exception to the rules that are derived from them represent a new horizon in thought.

Truth be told though, is that old Albert was working on going past the SToR himself with his attempt at a grand unified theory up until the moment of his death. He knew that there were problems with the SToR and GTR and their implications irritated him as much as they do many to this day.

This doesn't actually disprove the SToR or even the GRT, any more than either disproved Newtonian physics.

Where I think this is leading, is towards questions of not just neutrinos (because of particle type occillation) but mass in general having concurrent extradimensional properties, which for me is a probable reconcilliation of the wave/ particle duality paradox and quantum entanglement or spooky action over a distance as Einstein called it.

Basically, all things exist in multiple dimensions simultaneously including in this case what some would term hyperspace. I suppose that this could lead to devices with parts that exist primarily in other dimensions but could interact with things in the observable dimensions. I have no idea what engineers could dream up if distance wasn't an issue...

But I've wandered off course a bit and I'm tired from arguing politics all day so I'll drop it here.

However, there is a book that is very easy to understand that you might check out called Flatland that I'd recommend for multiple reasons including the fact that it's just a wonderful book.

"After all our Constitution's preamble starts with "we the people," and ends without a single mention of corporations or political parties."

The problem with this statement is that parties and corporations are activities that PEOPLE engage in.

Never ever forget that it's PEOPLE that you oppose or you will become the monster that you fear most.

possibilities 'if' such things were to occur. ;)
BTW I heard of Flatland {not Flat-line HaHaHa ;} and now must get! ;)

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/mayor-bloomberg-declares-victory-occ...

Mayor Bloomberg declares victory against Occupy Wall Street as thousands swarm lower Manhattan in all-day rallies
Hundreds arrested as workers face commuting nightmares

BY John Doyle, Christina Boyle, Jennifer H. Cunningham & Larry Mcshane
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS

Thursday, November 17 2011, 11:33 AM
Hundreds of Occupy Wall Street activists attempt to shut down the New York Stock Exchange Thursday morning.
Bryan Smith/for New York Daily News
Hundreds of Occupy Wall Street activists attempt to shut down the New York Stock Exchange Thursday morning.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/mayor-bloomberg-declares-victory-occ...

Sea of Blue - tsk tsk

http://www.truth-out.org/occupy-wall-street-protest-live-blog/1321489581

Happy belated.

Hello all...

What are people watching/listening to?

I hope and expect I can do better than Karl Frisch on Hartmann. (No offense to KF [not really anyway].)

Leah, gimmme a Pacifica link or something...(please)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oj4ftkasiv8&feature=related

http://kboo.fm/

http://wbai.org/

:)

Practicing casuistry or equivocation; using subtle or oversubtle reasoning; crafty; sly; intriguing.

OccupyWallStreet brings homelessness into the open

In Portland, Austin and Philadelphia, the Occupy Wall Street movement is taking up the cause of the homeless as its own, which of course it is. Homelessness is not a side issue unconnected to plutocracy and greed. It's where we're all eventually headed – the 99%, or at least the 70%, of us, every debt-loaded college graduate, out-of-work school teacher and impoverished senior citizen – unless this revolution succeeds.

Older, Suburban and Struggling, 'Near Poor' Startle the Census

WASHINGTON — They drive cars, but seldom new ones. They earn paychecks, but not big ones. Many own homes. Most pay taxes. Half are married, and nearly half live in the suburbs. None are poor, but many describe themselves as barely scraping by.

Down but not quite out, these Americans form a diverse group sometimes called “near poor” and sometimes simply overlooked — and a new count suggests they are far more numerous than previously understood.

When the Census Bureau this month released a new measure of poverty, meant to better count disposable income, it began altering the portrait of national need. Perhaps the most startling differences between the old measure and the new involves data the government has not yet published, showing 51 million people with incomes less than 50 percent above the poverty line. That number of Americans is 76 percent higher than the official account, published in September. All told, that places 100 million people — one in three Americans — either in poverty or in the fretful zone just above it.

[points to his head]

In Kansas, A Public Conference Reveals Deep Contempt for the Poor and for Women

“This Governor failed!” This was my angry proclamation to Kansas Public Radio after listening to Robert Rector from the Heritage Foundation speak in Kansas City, Kansas on the topic of childhood poverty. Robert Rector was introduced as the “intellectual godfather of welfare reform." Mr. Rector was invited to Kansas to speak by Governor Sam Brownback.

Governor Brownback stated at the start of the conference that he was seeking bi-partisan solutions to the problem of high rates of children living in poverty within our state. He declared “the best way to do it is to reach as far across the political spectrum and find someone as far opposite or different from you as you can and start to talk about strategy." This advice is obviously meant for all of the left leaning and moderate folks in the room, because this far right, radical Governor brought in a far-right, radical talking head from the Heritage Foundation. This is how the Governor failed.

Robert Rector’s resume includes a piece he wrote titled “The Myth of Poverty”, claiming that the Census Bureau is overestimating the number of those truly living in poverty. He recently wrote a piece for the National Review, “How do the poor live? For starters, a poor child in America is far more likely to have a wide-screen plasma television, cable or satellite TV, a computer and an Xbox or TiVo in his home than he is to be hungry." Mr. Rector backed up his resume of crazy by spouting off some of these doozies during the course of his 45 minute speech…

Submitted by Nobody on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 4:39pm.
Robert Rector, an analyst at the conservative Heritage Foundation, rejects the phrase “near poverty,” arguing that it conjures levels of dire need like hunger and homelessness experienced by a minority even among those actually poor.

“I don’t have any objection to this measure if you use the term ‘low-income,’ ” he said. “But the emotionally charged terms ‘poor’ or ‘near poor’ clearly suggest to most people a level of material hardship that doesn’t exist. It is deliberately used to mislead people.”

Bruce Meyer, an economist at the University of Chicago, warned that the numbers are likely to mask considerable diversity. Some households, especially the elderly, may have considerable savings. (Indeed, nearly one in five of the near poor own their homes mortgage-free.) But others may be getting help with public housing and food stamps.

“I do think this is a better measure, but I wouldn’t say that 100 million people are on the edge of starvation or anything close to that,” Mr. Meyer said.

...I know where I'd like to put my boot--straps.

"...the stronger you will become" bullshit...This is why they're against socialism...Would you not water a plant to help it grow?...Would you not feed a racehorse to teach it to run?...No matter how much you beat this country it's not gonna get up and run again...It's hurt, it's sick, it's old, it's hungry, it's weak...You have to feed things to make them strong, not starve them...it's time to take care of each other.

Santorum: Americans Should Suffer

During a town hall meeting in Ottumwa, Iowa Friday afternoon, Rick Santorum argued that Americans receive too many government benefits and ought to “suffer” in the Christian tradition. If “you’re lower income, you can qualify for Medicaid, you can qualify for food stamps, you can qualify for housing assistance,” Santorum complained, before adding, “suffering is part of life and it’s not a bad thing, it is an essential thing in life.” However, almost all states have curtailed their aid programs, just as the economic downturn is expanding the pool of eligible applicants. Watch it:

He recently wrote a piece for the National Review, “How do the poor live? For starters, a poor child in America is far more likely to have a wide-screen plasma television, cable or satellite TV, a computer and an Xbox or TiVo in his home than he is to be hungry."

...it is because the parent(s)--knowing that their children are inundated with commercialization in every facet of their existence--will find a way to give them any of these things in hopes of giving their children a chance at "normalcy" and incentive to stay in school, stay out of trouble and persevere against all odds.

Rector is a sociopath and part of the evil in "our house." I'm for chaining the gated community he lives in.

Santorum: Americans Should Suffer

...member of the United Sadists of America.

I'm a father and I do understand paternalism. I understand the revulsion for coddling and over nurturance. I understand their talking points but they've so perverted them, so twisted them passed the bounds of sanity or practicality of just plain common sense that I'm sick when I hear them utter them.

I understand bratty children and how they can get a sense of entitlement, any parent that hasn't come across that is truly blessed but I also understand that it's the strongest of us that will bend a knee to the weakest of us and the weakest of us that walk on by.

Food, shelter, health care, education and the opportunities that they afford just can not be considered 'coddling' but these are the things that are being denied and being denied in favor of those that this society truly coddles.

This is not the stuff that fathers are made of, this is the stuff that abusers made of and the powers that be should take heed when they look upon this country, that they're looking into the eyes of the abused, the neglected and fear those that they've made strong through pain.

Hurlements en faveur de Sade 1952
http://www.ubu.com/film/debord_hurlements.html

Instructions for the French Federation of Film Clubs
Clarifications on the film Hurlements en faveur de Sade
The spectacle is permanent. The importance of aesthetics still makes a very beautiful subject for pleasantries after drinking. We are leaving the cinema. The scandal is only too legitimate. I will never give explanations. Now you are all alone with our secrets. AT THE ORIGIN OF A NEW BEAUTY and later in the great liquid desert and limited to l'allee des Cygnes [the Boulevard of Swans] (all of the arts are mediocre games and change nothing) its face was discovered for the first time in this infancy that it calls its life. The specific conditions of the cinema permit the interruption of the anecdote by masses of empty silence. All the perfumes of Arabia. L'Aube de Villennes. AT THE ORIGIN OF A NEW BEAUTY. But it will no longer be in question. All of this isn't truly interesting. It is a question of losing oneself.

GUY-ERNEST DEBORD
(Published in Internationale Lettriste #2, February 1953. Translated from the French by NOT BORED!)

http://www.ubu.com/film/debord_hurlements.html

Gingrich: Laws preventing child labor are 'truly stupid'

(CNN) - Newt Gingrich proposed a plan Friday that would allow poor children to clean their schools for money, saying such a setup would both allow students to earn income and endow them with a strong work ethic.

Speaking at Harvard's Kennedy School of Government, the former House Speaker said his system would be an improvement on current child labor laws, which he called "truly stupid."

"It is tragic what we do in the poorest neighborhoods, entrapping children in child laws which are truly stupid," Gingrich said. "Saying to people you shouldn't go to work before you're 14, 16. You're totally poor, you're in a school that's failing with a teacher that's failing."

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"I tried for years to have a very simple model. These schools should get rid of unionized janitors, have one master janitor, pay local students to take care of the school. The kids would actually do work; they'd have cash; they'd have pride in the schools. They'd begin the process of rising."

YEA CeeCee! ;)

Grand Posts All! Tea Cheers ;)

“It doesn’t seem to me that the OWS is ready to be fully political. Didn’t it take the new left years to build to 1968? Was part of its less-than-fully ‘successful’ push because it was premature or exhausted? Was it because it never had full enough backing from social forces to be overwhelming? The new left didn’t spring ready formed into mass collective action in 1960 but built up powerful oppositions through solidarities only formed through practical common struggles. We see this happening now but we can’t expect it to happen overnight. On the contrary, OWS has shaky grounds to build on, but a more propitious moment. The early sixties were a period of rising affluence with a strong labor movement, albeit with a corrupt and conservative bureaucracy, a strong potential for working-class solidarity and powerful social movements demanding change. OWS faces a largely anomic society after decades of economic erosion and declining political power at every level, with the exception of alterglobalization movements that were the older brother and sisters of OWS. Our folks in Portland are still being arrested and still occupying and re-occupying. They have it pretty easy for now because they have tremendous support from the public. Let us hope that in one way there is rounding of the circle. Where the unintended consequences of parts of new left agitation became identity politics, the OWS might bring us back to class politics. From there, we can join the Greeks.”
Ukn.

NOVEMBER 17, 2011
Repression Breeds Resistance
by GEORGE CICCARIELLO-MAHER

As I begin to write this, Occupy Oakland circulates in a by-now familiar pattern: forced from the camp at the break of day, the occupiers reconvened as they have done before on the steps of the Public Library. Later, they will attempt to close a repeating circuit that stretches a short six blocks along 14th Street between City Hall and the Library.

This circuit, moreover, is one which draws its familiarity not only from recent weeks, but also from the early moments of what is a single cycle of struggle spanning years: it was down 14th Street that Oakland Police pursued us during the first rebellion, on January 7th of 2009, that greeted the murder of Oscar Grant. And it was in front of the same Public Library that I crouched behind a bush as an armored personnel carrier sped past, only to sprint off as heavily-clad militarized police-troops dismounted to chase myself and others on foot.

It has become all too apparent that the Occupy Movement is under attack, and that even my title is wholly insufficient: this war is not “coming,” this war has already begun.

Breaching the Limits of Tolerance

Writing from the perspective of a previous cycle of struggle, the radical Frankfurt School theorist Herbert Marcuse described the phenomenon of “repressive tolerance,” in which an ostensibly liberating concept and practice becomes distorted to suit the powerful and legitimate the status quo. According to the political theorist Wendy Brown, the discourse of tolerance serves to mark the powerful as normal while discrediting the “unruly” as somehow “deviant,” and thereby “legitimates the most illiberal actions of the state.” In other words, the repression that comes is not a distinct and corrupted form of tolerance, as for Marcuse, but instead embedded within the idea itself.

This lesson is of paramount importance to the Occupy Movement, but so is its opposite: even the most repressive of tolerance has its limits in the push-and-pull of forces vying for control, and Marcuse’s arguable pessimism on this point must be countered with the optimism of transgressing those limits.
http://www.counterpunch.org/2011/11/17/the-coming-war-on-the-occupy-move...

Transcontinental Occupation--Transcontinental Conversation
By Peter Bohmer and Ron Jacobs

Saturday, November 19, 2011

Like most other social justice activists I know, I have been following (and taking part in) the Occupy Wall Street movement. The encampment in Burlington, VT was in City Hall Park in Burlington's downtown district for over two weeks. After a tragic suicide in the encampment, the Progressive/Democrat majority city government shut the camp down by claiming it was unsafe. In Olympia, WA., where my fellow dialogist Peter Bohmer resides, the campers are occupying land near the state capital and have to this point managed to work things out with the authorities to avoid conflict. Like Occupy camps everywhere, the status of these camps could change at any time. Indeed, since we began this endeavor, several have been shut down by police and other authorities, usually using the excuse that the camps were unsafe. Yet, the continued existence of the movement is certainly changing the nature of certain elements of the political discussion in the United States. This is why Peter and I decided to engage in the dialogue below. Our conversation began on November 5th and ended at around 2 in the morning PST on November 17th.

Peter and I go back over twenty years. The conversation that follows is but one of many we have had since we met. We share it as a springboard for thought and discussion. At the same time, we do not claim any special knowledge and pretend to no higher wisdom. We hope that the dialogue is received in the spirit of revolutionary camaraderie.--Ron

Ron Jacobs: Do you remember last spring you said in an email (during the Arab Spring stuff before NATO and Libya) that this could have the same impact as 1968? Can you briefly explain that perception?

Peter Bohmer: I was very inspired by the uprisings in Tunisia and Egypt beginning at the end of last year and early this year, 2011. The growing numbers in the face of murderous repression, the courage, the participatory democratic process of the occupiers, and the call in their statements and in the actual occupation for democracy and economic and social justice really resonated with me and captivated me.

Movements and uprisings tend to spread within and between nations as people begin to feel that there are alternatives to resignation to the status quo and the sense of powerlessness that so many people feel. When I said that I hoped 2011 would also be a world historic year, I thought it was somewhat likely these movements and upsurges would burst forth first in countries where there was growing economic inequality and poverty, where austerity programs were in place and where the majority of the population had no power over the direction and policies of their country. I thought of places as ripe for major rebellion such as Greece which I had visited in September 2010 where the IMF and the European Union was increasingly calling the shots and particularly in other nations in North Africa and the Middle East where the people were following what was happening in the region’s largest country.
http://www.zcommunications.org/transcontinental-occupation-transcontinen...

November 7, 2011 by jackrasmus
SPECIAL NOTE: Greetings to those of you signed up for this blog. I have been delayed since September providing new entries to this blog due to work completing my most recent book, OBAMA’s ECONOMY: RECOVERY FOR THE FEW, Pluto Press and Palgrave-Macmillan, due out February-March 2012, as well as an item excerpted from the intro and concluding chapters of the book–a 35 pp. pamphlet entitled: ‘AN ALTERNATIVE PROGRAM FOR ECONOMIC RECOVERY’, which was produced for several labor unions. I will share with you selections from both of these in coming weeks. The first selection is a segment of the book and pamphlet concluding chapter involving 13 Specific Proposals for how to ‘tax the wealthiest 1%’ and their corporations. The recent movement to ‘Occupy Wall St’(OWS)emerging around the U.S. and world has raised the appropriate slogan, the 99% (us) vs. the 1% (them). But the slogan now needs specific content. The attached blog entry, ’13 Ways to Tax the Rich’ offers some initial suggestions in that regard.

COMMENTARY: The following proposals to Tax the Rich are excerpted from the recent pamphlet by Jack Rasmus, ‘An Alternative Program for Economic Recovery’, recently produced (October 2011) for various Teamsters Unions in the bay area and New York. The longer pamphlet also includes proposals to restructure the banking and retirement systems in the U.S., create 17 million jobs, save 11 million homeowners, and stabilize state and local government finances. For more information re. the pamphlet, contact the author, Jack Rasmus at: rasmus@kyklos.com or call 925-209-3933. The pamphlet may also be ordered from the website, http://www.kyklosproductions.com.

’13 WAYS TO TAX THE RICH’ by Jack Rasmus, copyright 2011

Tax Program #4.1: PROFESSIONAL INVESTORS’ OFFSHORE TAX HAVEN REPATRIATION TAX.

About $4 trillion today is held in offshore tax havens by US investors, individuals and institutions, in island nations like Cayman islands, Vanuatu, Seyschelles, Isle of Man, Cyprus, etc., and in more traditional havens like Switzerland, Lichtenstein, and so forth. The IRS has identified 27 of these, which it calls special jurisdictions. If just $2 trillion of that $4 trillion was required to be redeposited in US banks, those investors would have to pay the 35% top tax bracket personal income tax on the $2 trillion in the first year, raising about $700 billion. Future earnings on the remainder would also be taxed in the second to fifth years, yielding another $200 billion a year. Refusal to repatriate could result in a 10% penalty after 90 days, followed by similar penalties. Countries that refused to cooperate should have their US based assets frozen and then taxed until compliance.

Tax Program #4.2: MULTINATIONAL CORPORATIONS OFFSHORE PROFITS RECOVERY TAX.

Multinational corporations today are hoarding between $1 and $1.4 trillion in their offshore subsidiaries, refusing to pay the required 35% corporate tax rate. If they were required to repatriate that lower amount of $1 trillion, it would raise in the first year a sum of $350 billion and another $140 billion a year in each of the next four years. Refusal to repatriate could result in a 50% tariff on the re-importing of their offshore products to the U.S. until they repatriated.
http://jackrasmus.com/2011/11/07/13-ways-to-tax-the-richest-1/

America Beyond Capitalism
How thousands of co-ops, worker-owned businesses, land trusts, and municipal enterprises are quietly beginning to democratize the deep substructure of the American economic system.
BY GAR ALPEROVITZ

“Black Monday,” September 19, 1977, was the day 34 years ago when the shuttering of the Youngstown Sheet and Tube steel mill threw 5,000 steelworkers onto the streets of their decaying Midwestern hometown. No local, state or federal programs offered significant help. Steelworkers called training programs “funeral insurance”: they led nowhere since there were no other jobs available. Inspired by a young steelworker, an ecumenical religious coalition put forward a plan for community-worker ownership of the giant mill. The plan captured widespread media attention, the support of numerous Democrats and Republicans (including the conservative governor of the state at the time), and an initial $200 million in loan guarantees from the Carter administration.

Corporate and other political maneuvering in the end undercut the Youngstown initiative. Nonetheless, the effort had ongoing impact, especially in Ohio, where the idea of worker-ownership became widespread in significant part as the result of publicity and educational efforts traceable to the Youngstown effort—and because of the depth of policy failures and the continuing pain of deindustrialization throughout the state. In the more than three decades since that effott, numerous employee-owned companies—inspired directly and indirectly by the effort to save the Youngstown mill—have been developed in Ohio. Individual lives were also changed, among them that of the late John Logue, a professor at Kent State University who established the Ohio Employee Ownership Center, an organization that provides technical and other assistance to help firms across the state become worker-owned.

There has also been an evolution in the position of the United Steelworkers union. In the late 1970s the union saw worker-ownership as a threat to organizing, and it opposed efforts by local steelworkers to explore employee-owned institution-building in cities like Youngstown. Over the decades, however, the union changed its position as its leaders saw the need to supplement traditional forms of labor organizing with other strategies. The union has now become a strong advocate of worker ownership, and is actively working to develop new models based upon the Mondragón Cooperative Corporation in the Basque country of Spain. This highly successful grouping of worker-owned cooperatives employs 85,000 people in fields ranging from sophisticated medical technology and the production of appliances to large supermarkets and a credit union with over 21 billion euros in assets.

The developmental trajectory from Youngstown to today illustrates what might be called “forced institutional innovation”—a process that, once underway, also suggests further possibilities for larger-scale and more refined development both within Ohio and elsewhere—especially as many other parts of the nation now experience the massive job losses and community decay that hit Ohio and other rustbelt states three decades ago. Critically, all involve new ways to give concrete meaning to the idea of democratizing capital.

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http://www.dollarsandsense.org/archives/2011/1111alperovitz.html

Debord’s eighteen-minute Critique of Separation directs its experimental attentions to “the documentary.” Debord draws from a catalogue of newsreel footage and book covers, rephotographed photographs, views of Paris and its neighborhoods, and a catalogue of disabused, seemingly offhand footage of him and his friends in the porous zone comprising the cafŽ and the street. In Critique Debord makes his first tactical use of subtitles to problematize the receptions of the image and even of his own voice-over critique. He also expands the role of intertitles in an ironic vein (”One of the greatest anti-films of all time!”). Here the focus is the explicit development of the notion of “situations” and the problematics of their representation in film. He makes equally explicit, however, that his interest is not principally in a critique of film, but rather in a critique of existing conditions using film’s paradigmatic mechanisms. —From Return of the Supressed by Keith Sanborn
http://www.ubu.com/film/debord_critique.html

Loudly Protesting Park Eviction, if Not Outside Mayor’s Window as Planned

The sounds of snare drums, bongo drums and bucket drums, a familiar and frequent annoyance to those who live near Zuccotti Park, moved uptown on Sunday to the East Side home of Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg.

Well, not exactly.

The intention of the Occupy Wall Street protesters was to stage a 24-hour circle of drums in front of the mayor’s town house on East 79th Street. But the protesters were blocked at each corner by a line of police officers and metal barricades.

The police not only kept the drummers away; they also restricted access to all except those who lived on Mr. Bloomberg’s block.

as something dirty and disgusting, something to be feared and reviled, that humanity has any value at all let alone it being of penultimate value?

So many Scrooges, so many Tiny Tims, so many that want to hide from the pain that they've created...

Those that support wars never want to look at the broken bodies...Those that create hunger never want to look at the hungry.

Those that create homelessness don't want to see the tents...

Why would something that so weakly interacts with everything else in the universe like a neutrino be expected to lose energy by interacting with it?

This logic is akin to saying that it didn't follow the rule so therefore it can't have broken the rule.

Seriously?

Study rejects claims about faster-than-light neutrinos

Physicists say their colleagues' findings just don't add up, energy-wise

GENEVA — Scientists studying the same neutrino particles that colleagues say appear to have traveled faster than light rejected the startling finding this weekend, saying their tests had shown it must be wrong.

The September announcement of the faster-than-light finding, backed up last week after new studies, caused a furor in the scientific world, as it seemed to suggest that Albert Einstein's ideas on relativity, and much of modern physics, were based on a mistaken premise.

The first team, collaborating on the OPERA experiment at the Gran Sasso underground laboratory south of Rome, said they recorded neutrinos beamed to them from the CERN research center in Switzerland as arriving 60 nanoseconds before light would have done.

Congress kills request for National Climate Service

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration wanted to reshuffle its offices to establish a National Climate Service akin to the agency’s National Weather Service. It asked for no new funding to do so.

But in a political climate where talk of the earthly kind of climate can be radioactive, the answer in last week’s budget deal was “no.” Congress barred NOAA from launching what the agency bills as a “one-stop shop” for climate information.

Demand for such data is skyrocketing, NOAA administrator Jane Lubchenco told Congress earlier this year. Farmers are wondering when to plant. Urban planners want to know whether groundwater will stop flowing under subdivisions. Insurance companies need climate data to help them set rates.

But the climate service, first floated under President George W. Bush, became predictably politicized.

Yes folks,tinfoil hatter or not,it's time to travel down that magic bullet highway..

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JFK Assassination Special IX

Date: 11-21-11
Host: George Noory
Guests: Mark Lane, Barry Ernest, Cassie Parnau

In a four-hour special, three guests offer their theories and research regarding the JFK assassination. In order of appearance, attorney Mark Lane presents his conclusion that the CIA plotted the murder of President Kennedy; investigative reporter, Barry Ernest, discusses his decades long search for a woman who witnessed the JFK assassination from a window in the Book Depository; and historian Cassie Parnau shares her investigation into What's My Line panelist and gossip columnist Dorothy Kilgallen's untimely and suspicious death that followed her research into the JFK assassination.

Website(s):
marklane.com
mysite.verizon.net/restu5kb
kilgallenfiles.wordpress.com
Book(s):
Last Word: My Indictment of the CIA in the Murder of JFK
The Girl on the Stairs

www.coasttocoastam.com

(*It should be better than the last year or two..We're talking Mark Lane here..)

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And,of course my Open Mic with JFK Assassination info galore..

www.samsedershow.com/node/511

So,bring your tinfoil hats if you must,either way it should be interesting.. :)

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"Hello to our friends and fans in domestic surveillance."

MMRules

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/18/occupy-cals-floating-tent_n_110...
This article was a few days ago ... but I still think it has a 'wicked cool' picture also. ;)

Still not trusting ~ for this scenario ~ if true ~ was expected. These beliefs were from Q-Ps. (I was only part of the different conversations.)

Bloody Hell. Horrid. Any ideas, besides a letter by snail-mail, e-mail, call, &/or petition?

I have another idea personally, but for WTP I haven't a clue, besides the above.